Special_K said:
I applauded Edwards for taking Cheney to task on several issues and in effectively limiting his use of some of his usual campaign distortions.
Show me one candidate in the past ten, hell tweny years that has not done that. They ALL do that. I can usually tell when the BS is starting to fly when they bring out statistics and financial figures. Both Cheney and Edwards went to the statistic circus act more than once. Edwards, however, rarely answered the questions asked of him. He spent most of his time talking about previous questions and John Kerry. Cheney, however, stayed on topic on almost every question.
Special_K said:
My jaw dropped when Cheney said he hadn't suggested that 9/11 and Saddam weren't connected.
One question: WHY? I'll tell you why.
Your jaw dropped because you listen to mainstream, liberally biased media. There is a sound bite played often today. It is not played in it's entirety:
The leftist media wrote that dick Cheney said:
-- and we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11.
Here's what he said in it's entirety:
Dick Cheney said:
If we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so it's not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that it's not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base -- if you will, the geographic base -- of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years but most especially on 9/11. They understand what's at stake. That's one of the reasons they're putting up as much of a struggle as they have is because they know if we succeed here in Iraq that that's going to strike a major blow at their capabilities.
Here's another KEY part the media omit when they try to support the democratic spin:
the follow-up question from Russert: "So the resistance in Iraq is coming from those who were responsible for 9/11?"
Dick Cheney said:
No. I was careful not to say that.
This is from September 14th of 2003 when Cheney was on Meet the Press.
Special_K said:
Another key one is when Cheney said he hadn't met Edwards "until you walked on state tonight". However, several reports have revealed that to be untrue and photos are now being posted on several news and other sites of the times that Cheney and Edwards did meet...including when they were on state together at a prayer breakfast. So what's the deal with that? Was it amnesia or was it simply too good a line to be impeded by peksy little facts?
John Edwards has been known for his attendance record for a long time. I'll give you that Cheney's statement was distorted to bring his record into light. It does not change the fact that he missed more time from the senate than any other senator.
observe:
On Feb. 1, 2001, the vice president thanked Edwards by name at a Senate prayer breakfast and sat beside him during the event.
On April 8, 2001, Cheney and Edwards shook hands when they met off-camera during a taping of NBC's "Meet the Press," moderator Tim Russert said Wednesday on "Today."
On Jan. 8, 2003, the two met when the first-term North Carolina senator accompanied Elizabeth Dole to her swearing-in by Cheney as a North Carolina senator, Edwards aides also said.
Not one of these had ANYTHING to do with the US Senate (Edwards' elected position). Hence his own home state nicknaming him "Senator GONE" He did meet him. 3 times in four years, and never at work. Hmmmm
If Kerry/Edwards don't win this election, it will be back to the courtroom for Edwards, as the people of NC who voted him in to office will most likely not do so again. Can you blame them?
Special_K said:
Question: Was it me or did anyone else pick up the notion that the exchange about Cheney's daugther was a bit more than the actual words that were conveyed (i.e. Edwards crossing the line a bit in pointing out that Cheney had a gay daughter and Cheney effectively saying...buzz off, but in more explicit terms).
Crossing the line a bit? :shock: I would say that is an understatement. That was nothing short of a deeply personal potshot and clearly the act of a desperate man losing a debate. It was no secret that Cheney's daughter is a lesbian, but until now even the media has respected their privacy on that matter. Cheney composed himself pretty well after that. Edwards said that to anger Cheney. Him getting angry would have left the homosexuals with the impression that he is embarrassed or disapproves of his daughter. His daughter was there, too. Nice guy that trial lawyer.
:wink: 
