Jeep Horsepower

redrooster

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I know Junkpile is going to know the answer to this:
What was the stock horsepower rating for the AMC 360?
If anybody else knows what other Jeep motors are rated in stock form, please chime in.
 
It varies with year and application.

I think the ratings for the 1979 Jeep line were:
258=110hp/210torque
304=135hp/220
360=195hp/245?

Removing/replacing the emissions oriented parts will allow these engines to produce alot more power, especially the V8s. Jeep was trying hard to hold onto the torque monsters in the fuel limited 70s and early 80s, so the engines were built with running "clean and lean" in mind, not making power.
 

Man, the 4.0L HO makes nearly as much power as the 4bbl 360 :lol: Engines have come a long way.

Our GM 4.2L I6 is making 275hp.
 
redrooster, aren't you running a GM TBI? What kind of power can that system be modified to feed? 300hp?400hp? How hard is it to get a chip burned to a specific application? What kind of money would I be looking at to convert a 425-450hp 401 to that setup?
 
And I was always hoping I was pumping around 150 HP. Oh well, this 110 HP 258 sure does go!
 

Sully said:
And I was always hoping I was pumping around 150 HP. Oh well, this 110 HP 258 sure does go!
That's less than the MPFI 2.5L 4banger :shock:
 
Bounty__Hunter said:
Sully said:
And I was always hoping I was pumping around 150 HP. Oh well, this 110 HP 258 sure does go!
That's less than the MPFI 2.5L 4banger :shock:

At least I can do 85 on the freeway. :lol:
Lets see your 4 banger do that on 33's and 4.11's!
 

redrooster, aren't you running a GM TBI? What kind of power can that system be modified to feed? 300hp?400hp? How hard is it to get a chip burned to a specific application? What kind of money would I be looking at to convert a 425-450hp 401 to that setup?
Yeah you can get a setup from the same guy that helped with mine. You are probably looking at about $900 and worth every penny. He will probably use injectors from a 454 to get the higher flow rate. For a couple hundred more he will do you a tuned port made from an edelbrock Jeep intake with the ports for the injectors machined and TIG welded.
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BTW..
All you guys looking at the horsepower chart above...when it says "gross" horsepower rating, they are talking about dynoing the engine with free flow exhaust and no accessories or belt on the motor and using an external water pump to cool it.
When it says "net" horsepower, they have simulated the actual conditions including belts, accessories and exhaust including mufflers.
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:start hijacking thread here:

:lol: Wonder if you guys would humor me. Not knowing engines, but able to read and understand (being the brilliant lady I am) I'd like to understand this horspower thing more and compare mine to what I hear/see.

I have a 2.4L Power Tech DOHCI-4. 2003 Model SE Where to I find the 4:11 figure and what does it mean? How do you calcualte horsepower? Why is it that people say its a huge thing to do 85 in a 4 banger? I've done over that on a regular basis all the time and with no problem at all. Does that mean my setup is different than other years?

Also, on Battery and alternators....same thing. Ive read alot about their strengths and weaknesses too.

I have a 500 Amp battery and a 124 amp alternater. I guess what I'm wondering is for winching purposes. Back when I asked bout all this, half the people recommended that I get a different battery or alternator, half didn't. How do I really find that out for my own setup?

Appreciate any help you can give. Thanks!

:stop hijacking thread:
Lady 8)
 

LadyJeepFreak said:
Why is it that people say its a huge thing to do 85 in a 4 banger?

Not getting snappy, but he said "85mph in a 4banger with 33" tires and 4.10 gearing." That only happens in my Jeep if I'm going downhill and following a semi at a range of 10 feet.

But I've never found the need to do more than 70 in my Jeep. Any faster and I start to shake bolts loose. :shock:

C
 
HI-C Maybe I should have typed that clearer. I don't do 85 much either and I do understand the concept around larger tires factoring into that equation. I only have 31s. What I don't understand is the 4:10 or 4:11 figure and what it plays into this. I just meant in general I've heard before alot of negatives on 4 bangers, maybe its all teasing in general and not true.

Thank You for your response.
Lady
 
LadyJeepFreak

"I only have 31s. What I don't understand is the 4:10 or 4:11 figure and what it plays into this."

read this --> http://www.differentials.com/faq.html...it's the gear ratio in your axles.

hope that helps...
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-Sudz
 

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I'm not sure what you mean about horsepower and the 4:11 thing. You may be referring to the axle gear ratio as 4.11. This means that the number of gear teeth in your differential makes 4.11 to 1 ratio. For every 4.11 turns of the driveshaft, the tire makes one revolution. If you change to a larger tire, you actually travel a further distance in each revolution but experience a change in the overall driveline ratio. Hence 4 cylinders that run larger than stock tires run higher RPM's to maintain speed and sometimes lose the use of 5th gear because a 4 cyl lacks the torque to override the loss of gearing. It feels like you are losing engine "power".
Engine horsepower and torque are calculated on an engine dyno. Net horsepower ratings are given by the manufacturer in the owner's manual or you can look them up online.
You can improve horsepower and torque by adding aftermarket intakes, better flowing exhaust, computer chip programs, throttle body spacers, etc...
Most manufacturers shoot for reasonable horsepower to vehicle weight ratios and are conservative in their computer programming to add longevity to the life of the engine and the emissions output.
You can compensate for the loss of power by regearing you axles to lower the engine RPM. Say for example that you went from stock tires up to some 32" tires. To get the back to the same feeling you had with the stock tires, you would want to regear the axles to either a 4.56 or maybe a 4.88 ratio. Regearing can get expensive, so most people just live with the loss of power.
Here's a horsepower and gearing example for you: I have the 360 mentioned above that has been slightly modified, so we'll say it puts out around 200hp. That's all fine and good but since I put the motor in, I changed from 35" tires to 39.5" tires without a gear change. I am still good on the road because a V-8 makes good torque to compensate for the change in tire size. However, in the woods it lacks the power that I want to spin the tires freely. The scenario is that I have an automatic with a 2.48 first gear, a transfer case with a 2.0 low range and 4.56 axle gears and 39.5" tires. That's a 22.6 drivetrain ratio. That's on the low end. My solution is to put a 4:1 transfer case in there which will double the 22.6. Then I'll be back in action.
I hope this information overload helps. I had nothing else to do at the time.
 
THe 4:10 is in reference to gear ratio. Higher # means lower gear- thus more torque. As for the engine, (not your gears which are in your differential) your 4 banger has less HP, BUT it has more low-end torque. If you were to install some lower gears, you would have a great rockcrawling type machine.

4 bangers aren't necessarily inferior, just ask Raven. He raves about his low end torque for rock crawling. But I suppose that's just a matter of opinion. :mrgreen:

EDIT: I posted this not seeing the 2 responses before me. Opps.
 
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Sully said:
At least I can do 85 on the freeway. :lol:
Lets see your 4 banger do that on 33's and 4.11's!
It can, just don't ask it to get there quick, or uphill, or in a headwind. It won't do the speed with my swampers that it does with my BFG's of the same size, too much rotating mass.

I like my 4banger, it's fun to drive onroad and off, easy to work on, and easy on drivetrain parts.
 

larger tires are harder to turn... put two vehicles with different sized tires up on jacks... put your hand in the lug area and spin the wheel... the smaller tire will be much easier to turn.. leverage reasons... because a wheel is an infinite lever. and the gears... 4.10 gears come stock on a 4 cylinder... 4.10 means that the ring gear is 4.10 times larger in circumference than the pinion gear.. the pinion gear has to spin around 4.10 times for the ring to go around once... but... you get 4.10 times the torque (the force of a spinning motion) you would if it was a straight gear... the higher the number, the more torque you will have at the expense of speed
 
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