LauraBoston
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October 31
My LFS has one of those fish, they are wicked cool.
Terry do you have pics of the marine aquarium?
My LFS has one of those fish, they are wicked cool.
Terry do you have pics of the marine aquarium?
Fish tank?
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Not yet, it's not very impressive yet, as It's pretty empty. Once I've got it setup nicely, i'll post a few
Utah_jeepster
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Ok you all asked for it...please wait for it to load .
It is a large file since there are details that you just have to see.
As you can see there is alot of live coral here...some where in the range of 5000 dollars worth. Since I keep a small part of the great barrier reef in my home I dont have alot of fish.
This system has three 175 metal helide bulbs and 9 HO floresant lights to simulate dawn to dusk conditions. (turned off pumps for this shot)
I keep this tank cooled by a 1/4 horse water chiller that maintains a perfect 76 degrees and moves to 80 degree's over a 360 day piriod.
The water flows from the chiller threw 2, 4 UV bulb packs to keep the parasites low (ran 1 hour a day only), then back into the tank.
There are three wave maker machines that cycle's threw them every 24 hours to reproduce the in comming and out going tides.
Behind this tank I have 2, 48 inch protien skimmers and a calcium generator to keep the calcium levels near 550 PPM.
I add strontium and other chems every day from a 4 gallon water drip that maintains the water level in the 20 gallon over flow tank below.
300 gallons of the nature channle live every night
It is a large file since there are details that you just have to see.
As you can see there is alot of live coral here...some where in the range of 5000 dollars worth. Since I keep a small part of the great barrier reef in my home I dont have alot of fish.
This system has three 175 metal helide bulbs and 9 HO floresant lights to simulate dawn to dusk conditions. (turned off pumps for this shot)
I keep this tank cooled by a 1/4 horse water chiller that maintains a perfect 76 degrees and moves to 80 degree's over a 360 day piriod.
The water flows from the chiller threw 2, 4 UV bulb packs to keep the parasites low (ran 1 hour a day only), then back into the tank.
There are three wave maker machines that cycle's threw them every 24 hours to reproduce the in comming and out going tides.
Behind this tank I have 2, 48 inch protien skimmers and a calcium generator to keep the calcium levels near 550 PPM.
I add strontium and other chems every day from a 4 gallon water drip that maintains the water level in the 20 gallon over flow tank below.
300 gallons of the nature channle live every night
LauraBoston
New member
Utah_jeepster, Thats sweet!! It looks beauitful!
joejeepny
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I had a salt water take for years. 200 gal and a 55 and a 10 for isolation. Fish and live rock mixed doesnt work out well. Rock needs a pure environment and the fish pollute the water to fast. The live rock has alot of parasites that can attack the fish. Shrimp and fish work out well together and you can watch the shrimp clean the fish. Never use gravel or sand on the bottom of the tank. No under gravel filters. Bare glass bottom is the best. Eventualy the sand or gravel builds up to much plant and animal matter and causes your nitrates to go up and then your take has a wipe out and everything dies. Drip filters are the best because they allow more oxidation. The more air in the tank the better. Protein skimmers are great.
Always quaratine new fish for two weeks in a small tank with some copper to make sure you dont contaminate you current fish with the new fish. Less fish more water works well.
Always quaratine new fish for two weeks in a small tank with some copper to make sure you dont contaminate you current fish with the new fish. Less fish more water works well.
LadyJeepFreak
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UTAH!!!! 5K in coral??? OMG! LOL Think of what you could have bought for the JEEPS! L33, You too! LOL
Dangggggggggggg I thought I'd heard it all.
Johnny, that fuzzy white stuff is like a microrganisim or a form of mold. I had a plecosamas with it, the mold one. IT ate him alive, very stressful for me. I have one teeny fish now and that's nuff for me. lol
I am learning here too! Lady
Dangggggggggggg I thought I'd heard it all.
Johnny, that fuzzy white stuff is like a microrganisim or a form of mold. I had a plecosamas with it, the mold one. IT ate him alive, very stressful for me. I have one teeny fish now and that's nuff for me. lol
I am learning here too! Lady
joejeepny
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We stopped keeping fish due to the environmantl aspects. My 200 gal with lights and pumps used about $125.00 of electric a month(global warming kills reefs). They catch the fish with sionide by dumping it in the water and stunning a bunch of fish with the poison at one time then when they cant swim fast they collect them. The rock is harvested with explosives. They blow up a reef and pickup what ever looks good and didnt get to damaged. The stuff that dies ends up in those stupid coral stores on the side of the road or sold in fish stores for decorations. The more fish tanks in our homes the more damage to the reefs. When you buy a fish try to buy certified hand caught but most of that is bullshit anyway. When you do buy a fish pay for it and tell the store owner to hold it till you pick it up next week. Many fish have parasites when first recieved or had to much poisin and die. You can see if its healthy next week and then take it home. Fish die and are replaced at a rapid rate around a reef and faster in a reef tank. Ask any large aquarium or zoo about it and they will tell you they replace fish everyday. If you really want to admire fish do what we did. Take up scuba and see them in thier natural environment.
LadyJeepFreak
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If all that is true Joe, then I can see why you don't have fish. I also agree about scuba diving. I am wanting to learn myself this winter but I think there is only one place that teaches it around here and I think they use an outside pool (in the winter time? Not sure).
I am going to look into it though! I am crusiing to the bananna republics in March and on my last cruise I snorkled with no sucess. I was very let down with what I saw and the whole situation.
I'd like to do the dive with a group from the cruise, I know you have to be trained first though.
Thanks for keeping us aware!
Lady
I am going to look into it though! I am crusiing to the bananna republics in March and on my last cruise I snorkled with no sucess. I was very let down with what I saw and the whole situation.
I'd like to do the dive with a group from the cruise, I know you have to be trained first though.
Thanks for keeping us aware!
Lady
i just finnished up my freshwater with live plants.
it's only a 10 gal tank (free. only had to get a fitler. should have gone with a wheel type).
i only had the plants in for a few days, not the two weeks i intended, couldn't wait
. hopefully there weren't any hitch hikers on the plants.
i'm all ready to get a larger tank. i found a sweet set up. it comes with the tank(obviously) i think it's a 75 gallon with a beautiful wood stand (a bunch of doors and cabinets), full wood top with lights, bio wheel filter, and all the stuff to go inside for $640. i might just get the tank/stand/top/light with filter and do it with live plants as well. i really want to do a salt water tank, but i'll be moving in a year or so and don't want to move that.
i'll see if i can get pictures of the current set up.
it's only a 10 gal tank (free. only had to get a fitler. should have gone with a wheel type).
i only had the plants in for a few days, not the two weeks i intended, couldn't wait
. hopefully there weren't any hitch hikers on the plants.i'm all ready to get a larger tank. i found a sweet set up. it comes with the tank(obviously) i think it's a 75 gallon with a beautiful wood stand (a bunch of doors and cabinets), full wood top with lights, bio wheel filter, and all the stuff to go inside for $640. i might just get the tank/stand/top/light with filter and do it with live plants as well. i really want to do a salt water tank, but i'll be moving in a year or so and don't want to move that.
i'll see if i can get pictures of the current set up.
LauraBoston
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Thats a deal for $640, expically with the BioWheel! My tank/stand/filters (no biowheel), heater/pump cost WAY more then that. Plus the $75+ on plants, and an Oscar and Parrot.
If you got the room for a 75, do it! I'm addin some sort of freshwater eel...i'm lookin at Arowonas, and others like parrots and stuff...hard to find eels around here.
If you got the room for a 75, do it! I'm addin some sort of freshwater eel...i'm lookin at Arowonas, and others like parrots and stuff...hard to find eels around here.
i've seen a few eels around here. no way i'd be able to get any of those. my girlfriend freaks if you even mention them. i can't even get loaches (can't remember their name) that look like them.
the rest of the pics i have are herehttp://www.msnusers.com/jeepwreck/shoebox.msnw
the rest of the pics i have are herehttp://www.msnusers.com/jeepwreck/shoebox.msnw
Utah_jeepster
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First to Answer a few questions.
joejeepny :
You can keep salt water fish and corals and still be green.
All of my rock is Florida Culture rock. There is a company in FL that takes the piles of rock that was removed for the Key's hiway and leases a section in the Florida reef sactuary and takes 25 tons of once was live rock and plants it back into the ocean for a year.
It is slightly more expensive but the micro culture is worth it.
My three Tradacnia Clamscame from the Austrian Clam farms, where they breed and harvest tradacnia clams for the fish industry.
75% of my coral has been graf cuttings from other owners tanks.
Being active in a local fish club will help you reconise those species of coral that will survive in a tank. Be smart when you buy, some species dont live in captivity.
LadyJeepFreak :
I would recomend that you take a good look at the scuba stores certifieing agent. Look for a PADI, NOWI, or SSI. These organizations have set a international standard for certifying scuba divers. Teaching No decompression diving to newbies. Take a good long look at the school and the curriculum. Ask as many of questions here and find out as much as you can about the instructor. Since you need to feel comfortable with this person at 60 foot under water.
And always remember the first rule of scuba diving!
(Never hold your breath while on Scuba)
joejeepny :
You can keep salt water fish and corals and still be green.
All of my rock is Florida Culture rock. There is a company in FL that takes the piles of rock that was removed for the Key's hiway and leases a section in the Florida reef sactuary and takes 25 tons of once was live rock and plants it back into the ocean for a year.
It is slightly more expensive but the micro culture is worth it.
My three Tradacnia Clamscame from the Austrian Clam farms, where they breed and harvest tradacnia clams for the fish industry.
75% of my coral has been graf cuttings from other owners tanks.
Being active in a local fish club will help you reconise those species of coral that will survive in a tank. Be smart when you buy, some species dont live in captivity.
LadyJeepFreak :
I would recomend that you take a good look at the scuba stores certifieing agent. Look for a PADI, NOWI, or SSI. These organizations have set a international standard for certifying scuba divers. Teaching No decompression diving to newbies. Take a good long look at the school and the curriculum. Ask as many of questions here and find out as much as you can about the instructor. Since you need to feel comfortable with this person at 60 foot under water.
And always remember the first rule of scuba diving!
(Never hold your breath while on Scuba)
ok so the pictures didn't come up.
well anyway, i went to feed the fish this morning and i catch this little tiny thing shooting across the back of the tank. so i take a closer look, and it's a few fry. only had the fish for two days and allready have babies. it's the mollies (damn things were eating their young all ready) could only save about 9 of them.
those mollies will eat everything. they haven't figured out that the food is dropped in from the top of the tank yet. they wait untill it gets pushed down by the filter
just thought that was cool.
well anyway, i went to feed the fish this morning and i catch this little tiny thing shooting across the back of the tank. so i take a closer look, and it's a few fry. only had the fish for two days and allready have babies. it's the mollies (damn things were eating their young all ready) could only save about 9 of them.
those mollies will eat everything. they haven't figured out that the food is dropped in from the top of the tank yet. they wait untill it gets pushed down by the filter
just thought that was cool.
LauraBoston
New member
If you want to keep the fry, take them out or get one of those nets so the mollies wont eat them!
I checked out the pics, I like the pipe decor you have - that would be good for an eel.
I checked out the pics, I like the pipe decor you have - that would be good for an eel.
Salt water fish are just as easy to keep as fresh water. Every thing is basicly the same except the substrate and salt. I have been a hobbyist for close to 20yrs now. The biggest secret to a salt water tank is knowing what fist not to buy. A large amount of the fish you see in pet stores have less than a 10% chance of surviving in your fish tank more than 90 days. these are what most ppl buy and wonder why the cant keep them alive. (rock beauty, flame angel, square pink anthius, box fish) this is just a couple. I have had some of my fish for over 6 years. Currently I am keeping a annularus angel, harlequin tusk, multiple trigers, and some misc fish. I like to buy odd stuff when I can find it. Now reef tanks are another story. I would not venture there unless you have some steep pockets to start with(at least 2 to 3 grand). My next project is a salt water pond. I want to keep some diffrent rays and maybee a cpl wobbie gongs.
yeah laura, i got a 2 1/2 gal tank with a small heater and an air powered filter for them. been feeding them fry food and brine shrimp. those were a pain untill i figured out a good way to clean them (although they are mollies and would have done fine with the extra salt and all).
i've been looking on line at fishtanks and stuff lately. now i want to build my own tank. i figured out how to do it. can build a tank out of wood and glass. you can build a tank that's over 300 gallons for under $500. i so want to do that now.
the guy had pictures of him swimming in his tank with his sharks.
i've been looking on line at fishtanks and stuff lately. now i want to build my own tank. i figured out how to do it. can build a tank out of wood and glass. you can build a tank that's over 300 gallons for under $500. i so want to do that now.
the guy had pictures of him swimming in his tank with his sharks.
