sway bars or no sway bars?

the only good point for removing the rear sway is that a whole lot of vehicles came from the factory with no rear sway bar. i always add a rear bar because i used to race autocross so it really bothers me to not have one, even on a stock street car.
 
chunkysoop said:
I've never messed with the rear sway bar, but I've always just removed the front one completely on every jeep I've owned. Does disconnecting the rear give much extra flex? I've heard it said yes and no...

i think it works best in combination, front and rear
 

usually, if you leave the back and take off the front, you get a lot of oversteer in turns. the back comes around easily
 
Sorry, did I miss the part where this became a race car or performance car forum?

lol

There is a bolt on version of the variable sway bar for the rear, like most of these 'anti-rock' type setups they are very pricey and don't seem to me to do much more or less than the stock sway bar.
 

most people don;t realize they have or don;t have a rear sway bar and don;t know the effects of them. and this is not only a 4x4 jeep forum , there are 2x4 models and those can be very quick fun vehicles so i think this could be used to help both versions.

i prefer to have the largest front and the stock rear sway bars because we have no 4 wheeling here, except sand.

well, this too, i did this today

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this is rock crawling here.
 
superj said:
most people don;t realize they have or don;t have a rear sway bar and don;t know the effects of them. and this is not only a 4x4 jeep forum , there are 2x4 models and those can be very quick fun vehicles so i think this could be used to help both versions.

i prefer to have the largest front and the stock rear sway bars because we have no 4 wheeling here, except sand.

well, this too, i did this today

this is rock crawling here.

you posted a picture o the same location on an urban flexing thread a while ago lol we all have our favorite flexing spots
 

I think everyone has already made the point. But just to throw my two cents in. I used to drive an old cherokee. Long story short the anti sway bars were rusted and broke while driving down a bumpy back road. Shortly after the shiny side was no longer up, and I spilled my coffee.. Rip big red lol
Friends don't let friends drive without anti sway bars.
 
bugleboy said:
lol we are just trying to explain whats most safe on and offroad

If you want to be safe, buy a Volvo, if you want streetability and 4 wheeling that's just sand or dirt roads, get a Toyota, for serious off-roading flexing crawling climbing being amazed by what you can do, a Jeep that's moderately built up is the only way to go, and to get the most out of non-flat land 4 wheeling, sway-bars are more than useless, they are a hinderance and will get you in a position where they will not let your wheels touch ground, when your at 50 degrees on rocks, the sway bar can prevent the wheel you need most from touching ground. So it really comes down to what kind of off-roader are you, mud, sand, dirt roads, then yes, if you want your Jeep to handle like moms station wagon leave all stock equipment where it is and spend your money on stereo equipment, if you want to do rough rocky mountainous crawling, climbing, off-camber technical or extreme 4 wheeling then accept that you have a Jeep, not a car and the "handling characteristics" are going to be very different, if they aren't, why own a Jeep?
 
If you want to be safe, buy a Volvo, if you want streetability and 4 wheeling that's just sand or dirt roads, get a Toyota, for serious off-roading flexing crawling climbing being amazed by what you can do, a Jeep that's moderately built up is the only way to go, and to get the most out of non-flat land 4 wheeling, sway-bars are more than useless, they are a hinderance and will get you in a position where they will not let your wheels touch ground, when your at 50 degrees on rocks, the sway bar can prevent the wheel you need most from touching ground. So it really comes down to what kind of off-roader are you, mud, sand, dirt roads, then yes, if you want your Jeep to handle like moms station wagon leave all stock equipment where it is and spend your money on stereo equipment, if you want to do rough rocky mountainous crawling, climbing, off-camber technical or extreme 4 wheeling then accept that you have a Jeep, not a car and the "handling characteristics" are going to be very different, if they aren't, why own a Jeep?

All that is true and sounds great so long as you are trailering your Jeep to the off-road park. But if you plan on driving it over 20 mph, leave them on or use disconnects.
 
If you want to be safe, buy a Volvo, if you want streetability and 4 wheeling that's just sand or dirt roads, get a Toyota, for serious off-roading flexing crawling climbing being amazed by what you can do, a Jeep that's moderately built up is the only way to go, and to get the most out of non-flat land 4 wheeling, sway-bars are more than useless, they are a hinderance and will get you in a position where they will not let your wheels touch ground, when your at 50 degrees on rocks, the sway bar can prevent the wheel you need most from touching ground. So it really comes down to what kind of off-roader are you, mud, sand, dirt roads, then yes, if you want your Jeep to handle like moms station wagon leave all stock equipment where it is and spend your money on stereo equipment, if you want to do rough rocky mountainous crawling, climbing, off-camber technical or extreme 4 wheeling then accept that you have a Jeep, not a car and the "handling characteristics" are going to be very different, if they aren't, why own a Jeep?


man, this was a great post and was really going good till you said this:
"if you want your Jeep to handle like moms station wagon leave all stock equipment where it is and spend your money on stereo equipment"

there is no reason to put someone down because they do not follow the same ideology as you about something. we are not all here for the stuff you do. some of us are here for a fun top off vehicle that is just fun to drive around town in because we don;t have access to all the mountains and rocky terrain. some people live in places where the safety inspection requires you to have everything in place.
 
yeah all my area has is mud and not alot of it right now, id have no reason to buy an expensive rock crawler setup even if my xj was 4wd
 

And if all you have is sand and mud you wouldn't be asking about your rear sway bar, and if all you do is street driving in a Jeep convertible you wouldn't be asking about removing sway bars either, and if that's all you then this isn't a thread you should worry about as its a non-issue for the mud, sand, street non-rock guys.

I haven't run a rear sway bar in 2 years, I trailer, tow and drive to trails, I have driven over 1000 miles in the Jeep to a trail, no rear sway bar and felt no different, so like I said, depending on your style of wheeling, your style of driving, and I guess your uncommon sense, you don't need or want a rear sway bar.
 
And if all you have is sand and mud you wouldn't be asking about your rear sway bar, and if all you do is street driving in a Jeep convertible you wouldn't be asking about removing sway bars either, and if that's all you then this isn't a thread you should worry about as its a non-issue for the mud, sand, street non-rock guys. ...

That's the thing though. People don't use their jeeps for just sand/mud or just street. Some might but most don't. That's the whole reason many of us bought a jeep is because it can do it all.

I think most people can agree that it's not advisable to remove the rear sway bar on a TJ. Sure, you may have done it and never had a problem but someone that reads this thread and thinks they can do it because you did may not have the same skills that you do and may flip it on the highway and kill themselves or someone else. Granted that's an extreme but I don't want anyone thinking there will be no difference if removed or that it is recommended.
 
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southtj said:
but I don't want anyone thinking there will be no difference if removed or that it is recommended.

And I, having driven a few thousand miles with and without, on and off road, highway speeds and slower don't want people to read this and think there is a noticeable difference, there isn't, try it for yourself and see.

Of course I'm talking about a TJ with coils, not a YJ, and I'm not talking about a lift so extreme it makes no difference what you do, my experience is with my TJ, 3.25" suspension lift, adjustable track bars, and we are only talking rear sway bar, not front.

The OP has an 8" lift on his TJ, I'm guessing he has had to modify his sway bar and should know by the 8" mark what he can and can't do.

That being said, this was an interesting debate/discussion, thanks.
 

And if all you have is sand and mud you wouldn't be asking about your rear sway bar, and if all you do is street driving in a Jeep convertible you wouldn't be asking about removing sway bars either, and if that's all you then this isn't a thread you should worry about as its a non-issue for the mud, sand, street non-rock guys.

I haven't run a rear sway bar in 2 years, I trailer, tow and drive to trails, I have driven over 1000 miles in the Jeep to a trail, no rear sway bar and felt no different, so like I said, depending on your style of wheeling, your style of driving, and I guess your uncommon sense, you don't need or want a rear sway bar.


i tow with mine and drive all over texas an no rear sway bar feels totally different. but i have driven more things then a jeep so i guess i have a bit more experience in how things should feel when they are riding safely down the highway.

your way of talking puts people down if they don;t agree with you. like your uncommon sense, ha ha ha. like you are hte god of driving and you decide whats right and wrong. if you drive with no rear sway bar where i live, your jeep will sway back and forth like crazy because we have so much wind.
 
Lol, wind? I live in southern Wyoming where 40mph winds are an everyday thing and have been in trucking for 23 years, currently I run mail contracted to USPS (that means running light or empty daily across the Rockies), I know a tiny little bit about driving.

I wasn't putting anyone down, if you took offense maybe you should look at why, the only comment I've seen I thought outright laughable was if you go more than 20 mph with no rear sway bar you'll lose control, that was dumb.

I have driven all over the western US with and without a sway bar, the only place in the US I would want one is in Fl on the shell based asphalt, of course you don't need much lift in that area unless you travel a ways.

Like I said, you don't feel a difference with or without a rear sway bar unless maybe you drive like the guy in that video that was posted lol.
 
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