Revolver Shackles

[Robrt-Stephens]

I did a search and got a great bunch of data here at this forum on these devices, but wanted to see if anyone here can post fact of good or bad use about these things along with any combination; 'Z' boxes, etc. Tried this on another 'forum' so called and got assailed for this question for facts with somehow it was my 'opinion' for an inquiry, so never could get a staight answer. Some folks hate these things with a passion but offer no documentation as to why. So, am trying here.

All I've heard about these until I came here and read the post after doing a search, was terrible negatives and I'd like to know why if anyone can help. Everyone claims they are 'junk' but do not offer cognizant reason as to why.

I've installed mine and did road tests and there is no issues there at all so far. I have checked articulation as shown below with my 1983 CJ-7 below with Tuff Country 4" lift, 19x 34" Rancho shocks, taller home made shock towers, and discos with 24" stianless steel break lines, 2" BL.

I'm interested in actual useage off and on road, not rumors, if one can help me on this before I get into seriously testing them.

Thank you all in advance,

Robert

my Jeep site begins here:

http://behold-the-rage.com/jeep_page_1.html

 

[jeepin916]

hey i seen these in action, they work great but i also heard the owners bitch about them, off road at low speeds they seem to do great and what there suppsoed to do, but i have heard that on pavement on the high way makeing turns they seem to be unstable. thats what i have heard tho, i never has any experience with them...

 

[DerekC]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Wont start unless i hit

well i do not know how well they work as I do not have them, BUT I would say you have the articulation area down pat!

 

[Bounty__Hunter]

I've got them on the rear of my YJ, they open part-way offroad which improves flex. I haven't noticed any ill-effects, onroad or off. Mine would open more if I'd relocate my shocks, they're the limiting factor right now.

My understanding of using them on the front is it's possible for them to open up under throttle, with axlewrap trying to twist the leading end of the leafsprings down.

I've seen a lot of negative on revolvers on other sites, but like you mentioned there's usually not much fact to back it up.

 

[Joopin]

RE: Rancho VS. Superlift

My brother had them on his YJ when he bought it. They were great offroad, but when driving at speeds over 50 or so there was alot of play in the handling. That was on the front AND back though, maybe the way to go is what bounty did, just on the back so they are just trailing along. Nice jeep and welcome!

 

[Sparky-Watts]

RE: Door Removal

I know one guy locally that has them (actually just kinda met him once in McDonalds parking lot and started talking Jeeps), and he says they're great off-road for plenty of flex. On-road, he's never really had much of a problem, except when accelerating around corners, the inside front tends to lift a bit, but nothing too serious. He loves them.

That's a great looking Jeep!!! Love that flex ya got goin' on there! Stay here on Jeepz, you're always welcome, and I know you'll soon realize that we're nothing like "those other Jeep sites" on the web. Pretty friendly bunch here, and also very knowledgeable and supportive. Welcome aboard!!

 

[BigDaddys88YJ]

Bounty is right put them on the back only. My YJ became a Y-SWAY and I ended up selling them to a(sucker) I mean buddy of mine. No really, they work good on the trail but for me the highway sucked.

 

[slipslap]

RE: Right stuff for right person

I've chatted at Robert on the other site as well. And I haven't gotten to use mine still off road due to a broken front u joint. But on road they drive fine and I have had no problem with them. I drive on th einterstate to wrok and hit some mean dips on bridges and nothing bad so far. When I get off the freeway and go around the ramps I don't feel anyting bad either. I have them front and back as well. Maybe some of yall are thinking your jeep is a race car when cornering or saomething. Cause I have no problem with mine and the ride is fine at highway speeds to me.

 

[MerkL]

RE: Re: RE: Help i might be losing my jeep..

Maybe some of yall are thinking your jeep is a race car when cornering or saomething.

Different Jeeps for different peeps.

 

[Junkpile]

Maybe some of yall are thinking your jeep is a race car

That would be me!

but.....it's a race JEEP!! :wink:

 

[mud4feet]

......That would be me!

but.....it's a race JEEP!! :wink:

A very astute distinction!!!! :lol:

 

[Craig]

I have them both front and rear on my YJ without the Z-boxes. They're great for articulation. The only problem I've found is that without my front trac bar connected the front axle shifts side to side way too much causing the steering wheel to be out of alignment after every corner. On the street, I have to have my front trac bar hooked up or I'll end up in the other lane...the steering is way too sloppy. In order to get full articulation you have to remove or unhook the front trac bar off road if you don't mind the sloppy steering. I haven't tried unhooking my rear trac bar so I can't give you any info on how it rides without it. My rear trac bar is limiting the rear revolvers from fully opening.....which is a good thing because I don't have my SYE kit installed yet and it'll pull my rear driveshaft out if I do unhook the rear trac bar.

 

[TwistedCU]

Well I have never tried them personally so I'll spare you the speculation, but I will say that as easy as it is to change out a set of shackles you should give them a whirl. It's not like you can't just swap back your old shackles with ease.

By the way, you'll never get flamed on Jeepz for asking a question. good bunch of folks here and welcome to Jeepz!

Now I have a question for you... how does the Tuff Country kit ride? I see the springs seem to flex well or is that jsu the revolvers workin for ya?

 

[slipslap]

Vacuum system problems

Yes you have to unhook the sway bar tot truly use them. I tried driving on the road with mine disconnected and I couldn't handle it. So it''s hooked up for road use and I don't have a rear one to unhook.

 

[Craig]

Yes you have to unhook the sway bar tot truly use them. I tried driving on the road with mine disconnected and I couldn't handle it. So it''s hooked up for road use and I don't have a rear one to unhook.

I assume you're referring to the trac bar. I have had my front sway bar disconnected since the first day I've had my jeep and notice no difference at all with or without the revolvers.

 

[Joopin]

Get one of those telescoping trackbars. JKS makes them. There a must if you run revolvers.

 

[jeepin916]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Help i might be losing my jeep..

no the track bar is what keeps the axle centered under the jeep

 

[currupt4130]

This is where I got hooked...

theyre not worth a damn, they screw with your spring rates and you get body roll where sprign flex once was. hers a pic to illustrate. in the picture, his front isnt compressing at all, nor is his rear, all the weight is being transfered away from the springs because the revolvers and z boxes need less force to open than the springs do to compress. they are a flex ramp gimic and not worth while on trails, do it right and go SOA, 1/4 elip, or 4 link and coil overs if you need gobs of flex

heres the link to the discussion on the topic, its a good discussion with lots of thought and intelligence

http://www.mpjai.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2189&highlight=revolvers+body+roll

 

[Sparky-Watts]

Wow! Thanks for posting that, corrupt!! I had no idea how bad those things were!!

 

[Craig]

I don't think the revolvers are as bad as that post makes them out to be. If you look at that jeep in the picture, without the revolvers, there may have been a lot less body roll but he would've also most likely been riding on three wheels instead of having all four on the ground. When the jeep transfers it's weight and teeters over (like a teeter totter....however you spell it) with the wheel in the air coming down and the opposite tire going up into the air, you would be just as likely to roll if not more likely.