Motor Oils

[clydethepirate]

Valvoline has started selling it's NextGen Recycled oil and says oil made from used oil is a better oil than oil made from crude.
Just wondering what everyones thoughts were on this?
I'm all for recycling and not relying so much on foreign oil, but Im not sure about this.........:???:

 

[southtj]

I'm sure it's cleaned, purified, mixed with new and tested and all but still...I don't think so.

 

[TerryMason]

I think that all we'd need to do is do some used oil analysis on our normal stuff, then run a that stuff for a couple of changes to see if it's as good.

We'd still have to find someone to run it for a couple of thousand miles.

 

[jeepjeep!]

Let me chime in as a pennzoil lube shop manager, Conventional oil that you buy off the shelf is around 80% oil and 20% additives. .after around 3000 miles the additives in the oil are at or nearly at full contaminant capacity. Just like the filter, the additives are designed to invade and trap dirt, carbon, acid, and other contaminants so they can be drained out. . All used oil from quick lubes around the country is recycled and used for heat or asphalt and such. .all Valvoline is doing is re-refining it. .it goes through the same distilling and flashing process that crude goes through. Only difference is it starred out as oil and not crude. .crude has some of the same contaminants as used oil does before its refined. .its not harmful at all. I have a Pennzoil meeting tomorrow with clayton and the guys from pennzoil. .joy!! They let us in on stuff like that at these meetings, discuss new products and discuss science behind it all. .Sometimes boring but hey we get free dinner at a nice restaurant!!

 

[Utah_jeepster]

what did you get for your "free" dinner, and what did higher ups have to say?

 

[JohnnyO]

Valvoline has started selling it's NextGen Recycled oil and says oil made from used oil is a better oil than oil made from crude.
Just wondering what everyones thoughts were on this?
I'm all for recycling and not relying so much on foreign oil, but Im not sure about this.........:???:

IIRC, the ads say it's "just as good", not better.
Only way to know for sure is to run your normal oil for 3000, 5000 miles, or whatever, get a used oil analysis (UOA), then run NextGen for the same and get another UOA and compare.
My issue is that NextGen costs the same as "new" oil. To my way of thinking it ought to cost less. Especially if you want people to use it.

 

[superj]

yup. i am not buying recycled oil if its the same price as new. i don;t even recycle so why would i fall for paying that much

 

[extra-medium]

That's just like using toilet paper that has been made from recycled toilet paper. I wouldn't want to use it.

 

[jeepjeep!]

Guys your totally missing it. . Im a pennzoil guy so of course I choose penz over Val. . but its chemically the same as the new oil. .they flash it and distill it and its new oil. .with crude they distill it, flash it, add some additives, flash it and distill it add some additives. So on and so on til they get what they want which is very very far from crude. .their doing the exact same thing with the used oil. .the end outcome is the same! Pour both oils out in a cup and take to a oils analyst and they can't tell the difference I guarantee! Some Toilet paper is made of recycled materials. . Oh and I haze a 10 oz ribeye, baked potato, salad, and chessecake.

 

[clydethepirate]

When oil is used it looses its viscosity doesnt it? I know it can be cleaned but can the natural properties be replaced?

 

[clydethepirate]

I work for ExxonMobil and I see crude oil in natural form. I agree its not a pretty sight! its nothing like comes out of the bottle