I encourage higher gas prices. It encourages conservation of gas as well as the use of public transportation. I drive as little as possible and have found that even with a road trip to southern california i only drove 3000 miles last year. i realize that a lot of you have jobs and school more than 5 miles away but still, i think 3000 is pretty good. thanks, mr. tree hugger
May 19th Gas boycott?
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redrooster
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Congratulations. That is the dumbest thing I have read all week.
Do you think they should increase the price of houses to dicourage people from cutting wood or raise the price of meat to save some cows. Under that methodology you would have everyone homeless and hungry. It's obvious that you understand nothing about economy. Raising the prices does nothing but hurt you and I and line the pockets of the oil industry.
I am all for seeking out alternative fuel sources. The technology has been around to make electric and hybrid vehicles for a quite a while but the automakers don't want to spend the cash or assume the risk to do the R&D. They are probably getting kickbacks from the oil guys anyway.
It's all right though. You will probably be able to put more miles on that thing once you graduate high school and your mommy will let you travel outside the state.
outerbeachyj
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"You will probably be able to put more miles on that thing once you graduate high school and your mommy will let you travel outside the state"
Ouch!!
Hey its cool... You are the kid who started the thread "the downside of having a Jeep" So you may not put many miles on it, but it sounds like they are quality miles!!! That was a great thread...
"You will probably be able to put more miles on that thing once you graduate high school and your mommy will let you travel outside the state"
Ouch!!
Hey its cool... You are the kid who started the thread "the downside of having a Jeep" So you may not put many miles on it, but it sounds like they are quality miles!!! That was a great thread...
JeepGirl9248
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Wow! Why own a car? Seriously for 3000 miles can't you take a bike, get a friend to pick you up (although I dont think you'll be making friends with many who drive cars with that attitude) or take a cab? The insurance has got to be through the roof. If you ask me what you should do I'd say sell the jeep and give all the money to make to a conservation club. See how you like that!
Driving's a privledge and many people like to do it! I would hate it if my job, work, school, whatever were 5 miles away. In my first year of owning my jeep I put 24000 miles on it. Think thats bad? I don't! I loved driving each one of those 24000 miles (welllll maybe not the ones that got me stuck topless in the rain... but whatever)! And if you are pro-environment and all that jazz why would you put a lift and 33s on your jeep? Actually why would you buy a jeep, we all know they're not the most environmental friendly car out there...
JeepGirl9248 said:
True. Jeeps certainly aren't that great with fuel efficiency by design. However, how you drive a vehicle and how you maintain it also greatly affect its fuel efficiency.
Being a moderate environmentalist, I've been conflicted in the decision to keep and drive my Wrangler as a daily driver for the past 9 months now. I really like it though and have decided to keep it (of course! :mrgreen: ), but I'm also making sure it is getting the best efficiency possible by keeping it tuned up properly and through how I drive it. I've been getting about 20 mpg average with it lately, which isn't great by any means, but its so far the best I can get out of it.
Of course, I've just started driving the Cherokee again off and on in the last few weeks, and hope to being driving it much more often as soon as I get a few minor drivetrain related problems worked out. Luckily Gas efficency is of no concern with the Cherokee.
Hmm, I guess I've digressed from the original topic :mrgreen:
-Nick :!:
TwistedCU
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noskils32 said:
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
That's right out of Socialism 101, page 345 I believe. :roll:
Or was that Communism 101??? well either way, that certianly not the way things are supposed to happen in a democracy.
I for one think you should get volume discounts!!! (just kidding - but it would be nice)
Lets make laws to force self control upon the people??? C'mon man where's the freedom in that???!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?
OutOfStep
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[quote="redrooster Congratulations. That is the dumbest thing I have read all week. Do you think they should increase the price of houses to dicourage people from cutting wood or raise the price of meat to save some cows. Under that methodology you would have everyone homeless and hungry. It's obvious that you understand nothing about economy. [/quote]
I totally disagree with the fed's taxing anything excessively for any reason. However, hasn't the U.S. goverment always levied taxes more highly on goods and services the populace see's as bad/sinful/frivioulous in an attempt to prevent people from using/consuming such services. John Kerry has said on many occasions that he supports the raising of gas taxes for the exact same reason (not that he's not an idiot, but his thought process is indicitive of general politician thought processes).
I totally disagree with the fed's taxing anything excessively for any reason. However, hasn't the U.S. goverment always levied taxes more highly on goods and services the populace see's as bad/sinful/frivioulous in an attempt to prevent people from using/consuming such services. John Kerry has said on many occasions that he supports the raising of gas taxes for the exact same reason (not that he's not an idiot, but his thought process is indicitive of general politician thought processes).
Joopin
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First of all, if the whole country switched to electric cars or hybrid cars the economy would be in shambles! Do you know how many people have a job that involves oil ? A crap load! And they would all be out of work, sleeping in the discarded cardboard boxes that the nieghbors electric wind up car came in.
The thing to do is drill for Oil on our own US of A... ALASKA! It's there, tons of it. But cause of one idiot that spilled a bunch of oil on some penguins up there the "save the animals" people will throw a hissy fit if we drill up there. I read somewhere that all we need to drill for oil there is "100th of 1% of the land"! Alaska is friggin huge and pulsating with oily goodness, waiting to be drained... and the best part is, since the oil came off our land, the prices go waaaay down... we would all be paying a buck a gallon right now.
Joop
The thing to do is drill for Oil on our own US of A... ALASKA! It's there, tons of it. But cause of one idiot that spilled a bunch of oil on some penguins up there the "save the animals" people will throw a hissy fit if we drill up there. I read somewhere that all we need to drill for oil there is "100th of 1% of the land"! Alaska is friggin huge and pulsating with oily goodness, waiting to be drained... and the best part is, since the oil came off our land, the prices go waaaay down... we would all be paying a buck a gallon right now.
Joop
Joopin--- With it being so close to an election, if the economy did take another dive that would be an added bonus for the same people that are now screaming the loudest about the problems with gas and oil prices. They, the left, know that drilling in Alaska is the answer.....they just don't care because the new destination for the liberal feel-good machine is alternative fuels. Oil could be free....they would still argue the point if it gained some political ground. Notice how now that the economy is turning around and making a legitimate rebound, the same people who couldn't shut their mouths about it a few months ago are now completely silent on the issue. But when you rely on scare tactics and intersocial warfare to account for the majority of your votes, good news is bad news.
redrooster
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The government will continue to tax gas and oil and the industry will continue to set the prices at whatever level they see fit. Why??? Because they can. There is no viable mass produced alternative for gasoline and there won't be for a long time to come. Even if they could invent somethng tomorrow what will we do with the precious gas burning Jeeps we all love. I would gladly convert mine to an alternative fuel source if they could invent one that was as powerful as the current gas burner and they would let me write off the expense of conversion.
Another irritating topic is all this money we are spending to rebuild Iraq. Has anyone seen the plan for how the Iraqi's are going to repay us for rebuilding their civil works? That's probably because there isn't one. We pay to blow them up, then build them back. We should at least require that for every dollar we spend they spend the equivalent or give us an oil credit (since oil is all they have). That would never fly though because some liberal country like France or Germany would step in and say that the only reason we went in was for the oil.
Sometimes we have to do things that we don't want to in order to maintain our freedom...like kickin a little ass and making an example out of Al Qaeda and the nations that sponsored them. No one wants to pay that extra buck a gallon, but no one wants to have to duck from falling airplanes and skyscrapers either.
Just hang in there, it's an election year. The gas prices will be dropping in another month or two so that the media can tout our incumbent President as savig us all form sky rocketing gas prices.
BTW...I am a Bush supporter, but the strategy is plain to see.
Another irritating topic is all this money we are spending to rebuild Iraq. Has anyone seen the plan for how the Iraqi's are going to repay us for rebuilding their civil works? That's probably because there isn't one. We pay to blow them up, then build them back. We should at least require that for every dollar we spend they spend the equivalent or give us an oil credit (since oil is all they have). That would never fly though because some liberal country like France or Germany would step in and say that the only reason we went in was for the oil.
Sometimes we have to do things that we don't want to in order to maintain our freedom...like kickin a little ass and making an example out of Al Qaeda and the nations that sponsored them. No one wants to pay that extra buck a gallon, but no one wants to have to duck from falling airplanes and skyscrapers either.
Just hang in there, it's an election year. The gas prices will be dropping in another month or two so that the media can tout our incumbent President as savig us all form sky rocketing gas prices.
BTW...I am a Bush supporter, but the strategy is plain to see.
Joopin
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OutOfStep said:
The type of animal wasn't important here, it wasn't my goal to name which animal lives in Tundra or Tiaga or any other terms I barely remember from high school. Nor did I say that I did extensive research on the subject. I guess I should have just said Zebra so "Captain IKnowWhereAllTheAnimalsLive-enstien" would not take is seriously. :roll:
OutOfStep
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Yeah, guess I should have elaborated my point. Most environmental alarmists are ill informed people with highly charged emotional batteries. They do things because of how they feel not because of logic or science. My point was that you were jumping through the same hoops by allowing your emotional ties to your hard earned money to lead you to strongly believe that there is no reason to not drill in ANWR, even though you admittedly have not done research on the topic so as to generate an insightful opinion.
My wife says that I'm too serious when it comes to environmental and political issues, I dunno what she's talkin about :lol:
My wife says that I'm too serious when it comes to environmental and political issues, I dunno what she's talkin about :lol:
Hi everyone! I'm new here; not a jeepER per say, but an admirer of them!!
Anyway, just wanted to put in my two cents here; I happen to work in the oil industry - no, I don't pump gas
Gas is a necessity in today's world, not a luxury. Like redrooster says, people will continue to buy gas, even as prices rise. Why? Because everyone needs it (except mr. treehugger). Maybe it is politically motivated, maybe not. But until gas prices get to a point where it begins to impact people's lives, like maybe reconsidering that road trip to see the penguins in Alaska, consumers will keep pumping it into their cars & jeeps - myself included!
One point to ponder; a typical gas station only gets it's tanks filled every few months, or maybe just once a year. So, how come we are getting taxed for the gas that the station purchased back when it was still a buck a gallon?
Bastards...
Anyway, just wanted to put in my two cents here; I happen to work in the oil industry - no, I don't pump gas
Gas is a necessity in today's world, not a luxury. Like redrooster says, people will continue to buy gas, even as prices rise. Why? Because everyone needs it (except mr. treehugger). Maybe it is politically motivated, maybe not. But until gas prices get to a point where it begins to impact people's lives, like maybe reconsidering that road trip to see the penguins in Alaska, consumers will keep pumping it into their cars & jeeps - myself included!
One point to ponder; a typical gas station only gets it's tanks filled every few months, or maybe just once a year. So, how come we are getting taxed for the gas that the station purchased back when it was still a buck a gallon?
Bastards...
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