my buddy has a camaro (the one ive been thinkin' bout trading with) and has a set of headers that he has has for a long time, now so today we decided to put the on. welll.. we (I really) took off the whole exhaust syster, the starter, plugs, wires, and loosened the PS pumb, to get the old manifolds off... we i get almost done and go to attach the damn headers, and the F@WKIN things arent the right ones!!! :evil: one of the holes didnt line up correctly, i was pissed... i just put everything back on, that i could, but in the process of removing it, i destroyed to whole tailpipe, so it hasnt been replaced yet.... it just has manifolds at the current time... its slightly loud.... :mrgreen: