Just got outta jail
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Tug-n-pull
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I just sold a 144,000.00 dollar home plus the contents. The sheriff is turning the new ford suv's into cop rides and there is a nice young couple in the pokie for growing and saleing drugs in their house. The money went into the local county sheriff drug enforcement budget. So consider the cost of getting high befor it is to late. tug
dingus said:
That's funny. I love how people try to blame the current president for everything they don't like. I think that we have been fighting drugs in this country for alot longer than Bush has been in office.
It seems as though people in this world today try to blame anyone they can but themselves for THEIR mistakes. Jeepmaster commited a crime, got busted and now must pay the price. Let's not try to blame friends, the cops or the president or anyone else that was nearby. He screwed up, he went to jail and learned a lesson the hard way. I've been there too but for alcohol. It's how we learn and make ourselves better.
redrooster
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You guys with the weed and such need to get your priorities straight. I never had money for weed, it all went in to my Jeep.
Sounds like you are a young guy and that you learned your lesson. Make sure you get a good attorney and he can get the charges reduced. Hopefully you can at least get them down to misdemeanors. You will probably still have to take the probation.
Sounds like you are a young guy and that you learned your lesson. Make sure you get a good attorney and he can get the charges reduced. Hopefully you can at least get them down to misdemeanors. You will probably still have to take the probation.
jeepmaster
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the only problem with that rooster is that im 18, so they probably wont be misdemeanors, the jeep was impounded, i get it back today and we'll see how badly they trashed it. as far as exact amounts id estimate the amount in my house inbetween 1/4-1/2 lb and an oz in my car
and as far as you far right, a. no one planted anything in my car b. what you call bitching i call telling a story and c. my rights WERE violated, but its cute that you can sit in your little house at your little computer and tell me they weren't, oh and where in my post was i refusing responsibility? i mean i appreciate your worthless response and all, but since all you know about this is what im telling you, how can you say im wrong?
yea the police said that if the jeep hadn't been registered in my dad's name, they would have tried to take it.
and now my little soapbox, im definetly in the wrong, no question, there has never been any question, but personally i dont understand why there is no required jail sentence for stealing a car, TAKING SOMEONES PROPERTY, but then if you get caught with a plant, theres a mandatory punishment. someone explain that one, at least in my crimes i am the only victim, and the ONLY thing im blaming the police for is violating my rights
and as far as you far right, a. no one planted anything in my car b. what you call bitching i call telling a story and c. my rights WERE violated, but its cute that you can sit in your little house at your little computer and tell me they weren't, oh and where in my post was i refusing responsibility? i mean i appreciate your worthless response and all, but since all you know about this is what im telling you, how can you say im wrong?
yea the police said that if the jeep hadn't been registered in my dad's name, they would have tried to take it.
and now my little soapbox, im definetly in the wrong, no question, there has never been any question, but personally i dont understand why there is no required jail sentence for stealing a car, TAKING SOMEONES PROPERTY, but then if you get caught with a plant, theres a mandatory punishment. someone explain that one, at least in my crimes i am the only victim, and the ONLY thing im blaming the police for is violating my rights
dropseys
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Well let me tell anyone who is not familar with what Weed smells like. There is no smell like it in the world, and even if you didn't smoke it then, it stays in your car, and on your clothes and person. IF an officer smells weed its Probable cause for a search of your person, vehicles, etc. He stopped you for a legit reason, probably smelled some of your left over weed, which he obviously found, and then placed you under arrest. As for you signing papers giving them permission to search your house.... your own fault. Its called read and never sign anything you don't understand. Every seems to know about their rights, right to remain silent, right to an attorney, but why is it that when someone screws up and gets caught, the police "Screwed me over", "the police tricked me". The police did their job. They found a crime, and solvded it by placing you under arrest. As for tax stamps, that is a law based on most state govt's laws to prohibit tobbacco and alcohol from other states being imported. Basically to nail people who are avoiding paying higher taxes by gouing out of state to get goods. Never heard of drugs being included though because when does the state tax Weed? Someone else wrote on here about leaving parapharnelia at home. Your right that is another charge, but without it, that leaves us to conclude you are not using it for yourself, so you must be intending ot distribute it to someone else to use. Where i come from the paraphanelia charge is a max fine of $500 and no jail time. Simple possession is a misdemeanor. Felony charges would include possession with intent ot distribute. And one more thing. In order to be charged with possession with intent, you have to have a quantity that would not be a simple dime or nickle bag. When you have substantial quantities, police confiscate money, cell phones, pagers, vehicles (at least you still have your Jeep", and homes. Your lucky you weren't charged on a federal level, but again take this as a big lesson, learn from your mistakes and let reality sink in. Also watch what you say about P. D'rs. because most of your judges start out as P.D.'s.
LadyJeepFreak
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Jeepmaster,
Dude, that bites hard. I'm sorry your learning lifes hard lessons so early but maybe its better you are. Later in life when your appreciating things more and getting used to life it would suck more to lose it all to something like this.
I did illegeal things when young, just like everyone here. I didn't really take it to the extent you did, but I did them nonetheless. I decided long ago (I'm 30) now to drop those things and move on in life. I have a job now (for 8+ yrs) that drug tests and I am very responsible there. I am compensated well and will not chance messing up what this job and the benefits have brought to my lifestyle.
I still drink on occasion, and quite like it. I am not always the most responsible drunk either, but In my older wiser years I am good about having a DD when drinking.
I guess point it, everyone goes through these things, everyone learns. Just make sure you've REALLY learned and that it sticks with you more than just right now cuz it's so fresh in your mind.
Life is a ball of fun and there are many things out there to enjoy, just know WHEN to draw the lines and when to call it quits.
P.S. As responsible as I am, I bet no one that knows me these days would realize that when I was still a minor (but old enough to know better-17) I was arrested for shoplifting medium ticket items. Totally busted for something I had done time and time again, I was in a rut surrounded by bad influences and I CHOSE to make the bad decisions. I was personally cuffed in the store and dragged to the rear (feeling violated) and detained whereas I wasreleased to my mother several hours later (as I was out of state) and luckily not charged. I was publicly and privately embarrased to holy hell and back and learned my lesson from that day on that what I got in life, I got by hard earned money, not stealing. I'm glad I learned it early before I ended up in prison for theft of a serious degree.
Lady
Dude, that bites hard. I'm sorry your learning lifes hard lessons so early but maybe its better you are. Later in life when your appreciating things more and getting used to life it would suck more to lose it all to something like this.
I did illegeal things when young, just like everyone here. I didn't really take it to the extent you did, but I did them nonetheless. I decided long ago (I'm 30) now to drop those things and move on in life. I have a job now (for 8+ yrs) that drug tests and I am very responsible there. I am compensated well and will not chance messing up what this job and the benefits have brought to my lifestyle.
I still drink on occasion, and quite like it. I am not always the most responsible drunk either, but In my older wiser years I am good about having a DD when drinking.
I guess point it, everyone goes through these things, everyone learns. Just make sure you've REALLY learned and that it sticks with you more than just right now cuz it's so fresh in your mind.
Life is a ball of fun and there are many things out there to enjoy, just know WHEN to draw the lines and when to call it quits.
P.S. As responsible as I am, I bet no one that knows me these days would realize that when I was still a minor (but old enough to know better-17) I was arrested for shoplifting medium ticket items. Totally busted for something I had done time and time again, I was in a rut surrounded by bad influences and I CHOSE to make the bad decisions. I was personally cuffed in the store and dragged to the rear (feeling violated) and detained whereas I wasreleased to my mother several hours later (as I was out of state) and luckily not charged. I was publicly and privately embarrased to holy hell and back and learned my lesson from that day on that what I got in life, I got by hard earned money, not stealing. I'm glad I learned it early before I ended up in prison for theft of a serious degree.
Lady
Sparky-Watts
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Ok, first of all, let me tell you I'm not judging you, and I'm sorry you got busted. I used to smoke weed....a lot of it, too. I never got busted with it, but came way too close once, so I quit. You're young, you made the mistake, and now you're paying the price. You've accepted that, you've vowed to change. That's good. I still have absolutely nothing against weed. I'd much rather meet a driver on the road that's been smoking than I would a drunk. Like Gallagher said, "A drunk pulls up to a stop sign, sees a semi coming 200 yds away, and says 'I can't make it'. A smoker pulls up, sees a semi a half mile away and says, 'Maybe I'll pull out tomorrow."
As for the drug tax stamp: The feds, under president Reagan, I believe, issued the law on drug tax stamps. Not all states adopted it, but most did. Basically, what it's all about is paying income tax for drug sales. I know, it's the dumbest thing. It's illegal to sell drugs, yet they legalize it by charging a tax on the money you make. If you purchase a drug tax stamp, you don't have to pay taxes on the money you make from it. If you don't, then that is where they can and will confiscate your vehicle, home, and anything else you used during the sale of drugs. Even though the Jeep was in your dad's name, they could have confiscated it if they had believed you were using it to sell drugs. They could still seize your parent's house (or yours, I missed who you lived with) because the drugs were found there, too. Normally, the cops won't go for an "intent to sell" charge unless the drugs are either in several packages (broken down into 1/4's and 1/2's), or there are other items which indicate it such as scales, baggies, etc. If you didn't have any scales, or packaging materials, then you most likely can beat that charge.
As for what happened when they pulled you over: Did they ask you to get out of your vehicle? If so, did you refuse (that's what it sounds like)? If you did refuse to get out when told to do so by a Law Enforcement Officer, that can be judged as refusing a direct order from an LEO and also as resisting arrest. Technically, once the cops redlight you, you are under arrest temporarily, regardless of why they redlighted you. So, anything you refuse to do for them once the lights come on is resisting arrest. Depending on the state, a refusal to obey an LEO is also probable cause for search and seizure, as they tend to see only someone with something to hide are the ones who resist.
Sucks, but you'll get over it. Look how many presidents, politicians, and other important people have admitted to smoking weed or worse. Hang in there, jump through their hoops, and put it behind you as best you can. You didn't kill anyone, though they may treat you that way for a while. You'll be fine, so long as you stick to your guns and keep on the straight and narrow.
'Nuff sed.
As for the drug tax stamp: The feds, under president Reagan, I believe, issued the law on drug tax stamps. Not all states adopted it, but most did. Basically, what it's all about is paying income tax for drug sales. I know, it's the dumbest thing. It's illegal to sell drugs, yet they legalize it by charging a tax on the money you make. If you purchase a drug tax stamp, you don't have to pay taxes on the money you make from it. If you don't, then that is where they can and will confiscate your vehicle, home, and anything else you used during the sale of drugs. Even though the Jeep was in your dad's name, they could have confiscated it if they had believed you were using it to sell drugs. They could still seize your parent's house (or yours, I missed who you lived with) because the drugs were found there, too. Normally, the cops won't go for an "intent to sell" charge unless the drugs are either in several packages (broken down into 1/4's and 1/2's), or there are other items which indicate it such as scales, baggies, etc. If you didn't have any scales, or packaging materials, then you most likely can beat that charge.
As for what happened when they pulled you over: Did they ask you to get out of your vehicle? If so, did you refuse (that's what it sounds like)? If you did refuse to get out when told to do so by a Law Enforcement Officer, that can be judged as refusing a direct order from an LEO and also as resisting arrest. Technically, once the cops redlight you, you are under arrest temporarily, regardless of why they redlighted you. So, anything you refuse to do for them once the lights come on is resisting arrest. Depending on the state, a refusal to obey an LEO is also probable cause for search and seizure, as they tend to see only someone with something to hide are the ones who resist.
Sucks, but you'll get over it. Look how many presidents, politicians, and other important people have admitted to smoking weed or worse. Hang in there, jump through their hoops, and put it behind you as best you can. You didn't kill anyone, though they may treat you that way for a while. You'll be fine, so long as you stick to your guns and keep on the straight and narrow.
'Nuff sed.
jeepmaster
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dropseys i can assure you that it didnt smell even the faintest of weed in that car. i never smoked in the vehicle (DUH selling drugs from it) and as we were being pulled over i administered a heavy dose of Axe to the car. the police did screw me over, and thats what im probably going to get off on. they placed me in cuffs and in the back of the car for no reason, as well as illegally SEARCHED me, not a frisk, an illegal search. im aware my rights state that they may PAT me down for weapons, but may not put their hands into any of my pockets unless they can tell it is a weapon, that right was violated. not only that, but i got police report today and they didn't even cite the right pocket. they also claimed i willingly gave them the bud in my pocket, how does one who has his hands cuffed BEHIND him, sitting in the back of a squad car, which for anyone who hasn't been in one is incredibly cramped and virtually impossible to move around in, (im also 6'4") reach into his right front cargo pocket and pull a medicine container out? i know i screwed up, but so did they, and that makes it my lucky day (i know, nice rhyme) but im for sure learning from the mistake, im def. done with anything of the illegal nature, and i vow to never return to jail.
on a slightly comical note, in addition to the pot we had, we'd gotten 2 handles of captain morgan earlier in the night, and i just got the jeep back and they left one of them in there... nice work ladies
on a slightly comical note, in addition to the pot we had, we'd gotten 2 handles of captain morgan earlier in the night, and i just got the jeep back and they left one of them in there... nice work ladies
I'm not sure what "southern values" you guys are talking about....but there is more weed being run through the south than anywhere else. When moonshine lost it's value guess what alot of them turned to.
The War on Drugs is a waste. Over 20 billion dollars every year we spend on this failed program, and we've been doing it for decades, yet drug use rises. What has it done for us? Alot of you guys support the STEALING of private property to fund it.....so answer me that. What has it accomplished? Has it kept drugs out of our children's schools? Has it ended addiction? I know several people who have had their houses broken into, and the first thing they blame it on is some imaginary drug addict, so apparently it hasn't curbed that either. Hell, it can't even keep drugs out of prisons. PRISONS!!!!!
Back to the STEALING of personal property. Exactly how does locking someone up and taking away all their possessions help them? How does seizing their house and forcing their wives and children to seek shelter help anyone? How does draining their accounts and taking away their transportation helping anyone but the government? Private citizens are forbid to benefit from the sale of drugs, but the police department sure doesn't have any problem doing it do they?
Okay, here's a scenario. One neighbor walks over and rapes your wife while you are away at work. When the police come to arrest this man they notice an odor coming from another neighbors house. Warrant-search-arrest. He was growing Marijuana, and in order to keep his supply constant he has say 100 plants in various stages of growth. Both neighbors go away in handcuffs. With good behavior, the one that raped your wife will be free in maybe 7 years. His house, car, and possessions are all still there because his wife was able to keep up the payments. The other guy, the one that hurt no one but himself, is still serving his mandatory 10 years and when he gets out he finds his wife living in an apartment on the bad side of town. His car, money, and all of his belongings(or at least those worth a dollar or two) were seized and his whole future is now set for a course of struggling and scraping just to survive. Does this really seem right to you guys?
End the drug war and the profit in street sales is gone. No more dealers shooting each other on our streets. No more overdoses from tainted drugs because they would have to be inspected like all other medications. Before you guys just say "to hell with those filthy drug users" remember, the statistics pretty much show that one in four kids under the age of 18 has used illegal drugs. Anybody know more than 3 kids? Would you support this treatment being applied to that fourth kid that YOU might love?
It's all propaganda. Heroin was invented by the Bayer aspirin corporation and was considered at one time (and still is by honest members of the medical community that have actually studied it) to be the most effective pain reliever ever invented. If your grandparents or great-grandparents took an aspirin in the early 1900s, then they took Heroin. Your grand daddy was a filthy heroin user. Sears and Roebuck sold water pipes and smoking supplies along with several liquid medications and tonics that today would get you thrown UNDER the jailhouse. Guess why Coca-cola was so popular in the early 1900s. I can go down to the liquor store and for less than 20 bucks I can legally get so smashed I wouldn't even realize what I was doing, but if I smoke a joint to relax at the end of the day I'm some sort of animal......pleeeeaaase :roll:
Wow, I guess that was kind of long. Sorry.
The War on Drugs is a waste. Over 20 billion dollars every year we spend on this failed program, and we've been doing it for decades, yet drug use rises. What has it done for us? Alot of you guys support the STEALING of private property to fund it.....so answer me that. What has it accomplished? Has it kept drugs out of our children's schools? Has it ended addiction? I know several people who have had their houses broken into, and the first thing they blame it on is some imaginary drug addict, so apparently it hasn't curbed that either. Hell, it can't even keep drugs out of prisons. PRISONS!!!!!
Back to the STEALING of personal property. Exactly how does locking someone up and taking away all their possessions help them? How does seizing their house and forcing their wives and children to seek shelter help anyone? How does draining their accounts and taking away their transportation helping anyone but the government? Private citizens are forbid to benefit from the sale of drugs, but the police department sure doesn't have any problem doing it do they?
Okay, here's a scenario. One neighbor walks over and rapes your wife while you are away at work. When the police come to arrest this man they notice an odor coming from another neighbors house. Warrant-search-arrest. He was growing Marijuana, and in order to keep his supply constant he has say 100 plants in various stages of growth. Both neighbors go away in handcuffs. With good behavior, the one that raped your wife will be free in maybe 7 years. His house, car, and possessions are all still there because his wife was able to keep up the payments. The other guy, the one that hurt no one but himself, is still serving his mandatory 10 years and when he gets out he finds his wife living in an apartment on the bad side of town. His car, money, and all of his belongings(or at least those worth a dollar or two) were seized and his whole future is now set for a course of struggling and scraping just to survive. Does this really seem right to you guys?
End the drug war and the profit in street sales is gone. No more dealers shooting each other on our streets. No more overdoses from tainted drugs because they would have to be inspected like all other medications. Before you guys just say "to hell with those filthy drug users" remember, the statistics pretty much show that one in four kids under the age of 18 has used illegal drugs. Anybody know more than 3 kids? Would you support this treatment being applied to that fourth kid that YOU might love?
It's all propaganda. Heroin was invented by the Bayer aspirin corporation and was considered at one time (and still is by honest members of the medical community that have actually studied it) to be the most effective pain reliever ever invented. If your grandparents or great-grandparents took an aspirin in the early 1900s, then they took Heroin. Your grand daddy was a filthy heroin user. Sears and Roebuck sold water pipes and smoking supplies along with several liquid medications and tonics that today would get you thrown UNDER the jailhouse. Guess why Coca-cola was so popular in the early 1900s. I can go down to the liquor store and for less than 20 bucks I can legally get so smashed I wouldn't even realize what I was doing, but if I smoke a joint to relax at the end of the day I'm some sort of animal......pleeeeaaase :roll:
Wow, I guess that was kind of long. Sorry.
LadyJeepFreak
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Personally, I think if they are going to concentrate on drug users they need to concentrate on those that harm themselves or others. People that lie, steal, hurt, and kill to get money to buy thier drug of choice. These drugs aren't usually Mary Jane, which costs so little a child can buy it and afford to keep it around. The harder drugs are what I'd concentrate on if I had to look for something to be against.
I know a guy serving seven years in prison for taking a chicken truck and selling crates of chicken off the backside to poor people, just to get money to fund his crack habit. He was the truck triver and did this not once, but TWO times. This was after he'd already robbed each and every one of his family and close friends at knifepoint and sometimes in thier sleep. Now when things get so bad that you can't wait for your paycheck to pay for your habits, then houston we've got a problem. Instant gratification that takes you as far as harming and stealing from those you love is a serious issue. I'm not for any drug, but these people who are smoking at home in the evenings and STAYING at home while raising a family and working a day job, I'd leave them alone if I had the choice in controlling these matters which of course I don't! lol
Lady
I know a guy serving seven years in prison for taking a chicken truck and selling crates of chicken off the backside to poor people, just to get money to fund his crack habit. He was the truck triver and did this not once, but TWO times. This was after he'd already robbed each and every one of his family and close friends at knifepoint and sometimes in thier sleep. Now when things get so bad that you can't wait for your paycheck to pay for your habits, then houston we've got a problem. Instant gratification that takes you as far as harming and stealing from those you love is a serious issue. I'm not for any drug, but these people who are smoking at home in the evenings and STAYING at home while raising a family and working a day job, I'd leave them alone if I had the choice in controlling these matters which of course I don't! lol
Lady
I know a guy that broke into a house to get money so he could buy parts for his race car. Should we ban race cars? I see what you are saying Lady, but I cling too much to the notion that Freedom should mean I'm free to do whatever I want as long as I don't infringe on any one else's rights in the process. Robbery is illegal and robs someone else of their rights, the reasons for the robbery are beside the point.
LadyJeepFreak
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AZ Jeepers
Junkpile, I'm with ya on that. Robbery is wrong at any point, and no you can't ban every reason that someone may rob for. It's a shame values and ideals aren't better among the masses.
Lady
Junkpile, I'm with ya on that. Robbery is wrong at any point, and no you can't ban every reason that someone may rob for. It's a shame values and ideals aren't better among the masses.
Lady
do you hate clintion and his war on drugs also... if you dont like bush, thats fine, you have that right to hold an opinion. but like someone else said im pretty sure that "war on drugs" policy is a *little* older than bush's presidency
sounds like a little more than what you might need for yourself...
where is bounty hunter??? why hasnt he chimed in?
War on Drugs. Nixon is the one who I guess really started it.
Carter claimed to be against it, but did nothing to curb the escalation. Behind closed doors he even proposed tightening up on drug users and locking them up more frequently.
Reagan gave the programs some catchy names and threw alot of money at it. His terms brought about even more wasting in the TOTALLY ineffective side programs such as DARE.
Bush 1 did nothing really except shake hands and promise to solve the "problem".
Clinton was a real two-faced bastard. More non-violent drug offenders wound up behind bars under his administration than any in history. He even supported a failed bill that proposed the DEATH PENALTY for marijuana growers! I'm telling you, the man never EXHALED.
Carter claimed to be against it, but did nothing to curb the escalation. Behind closed doors he even proposed tightening up on drug users and locking them up more frequently.
Reagan gave the programs some catchy names and threw alot of money at it. His terms brought about even more wasting in the TOTALLY ineffective side programs such as DARE.
Bush 1 did nothing really except shake hands and promise to solve the "problem".
Clinton was a real two-faced bastard. More non-violent drug offenders wound up behind bars under his administration than any in history. He even supported a failed bill that proposed the DEATH PENALTY for marijuana growers! I'm telling you, the man never EXHALED.
dropseys
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Again, there weed in your car/ on your person right? Weed has a strong odor which can still be detected even in wrappers and you don't have to smoke it for it to smell. I don't know why officers would lie or screw you over because its not like this guy went home with a personal benefit from your violation, but it happens unfortunately. And funny thing is that when officers lie, people PROFILE the rest of us based on that. Profiling is one thing people like to claim police do, but people do in return to officers when something bad happens. I am glad you are learning a lesson here, and that your not losing your Jeep. One last thing, any money we confiscate due to drugs collection, does not directly go to the Police, it goes to the State govt, who uses it for drug interdiction programs, drug counseling programs, and education i.e. DARE program. Again i'm sorry you had a rough time, but like you said, it's a lesson elarned.
Allright, I'll stop posting for awhile after this....promise.
Dropseys---You're correct. Police get alot worse thrown at them than they ever throw back. On one hand we have to demand law enforcement to do their jobs correctly, but a couple of ride-alongs will quickly show you why alot of them develope bad attitudes and habits. Personally, I'm tired of seeing police officers gunned down over a program that has given us absolutely no returns on our investment. Luckily, some officers have also adopted that view and some anti-drug war groups, such as LEAP, headed up by law enforcement officers are now emerging.
While there are tons of diversion programs that seized money gets split into, saying that the Police don't benefit is stretching it. Your department gets kickbacks from the state and federal governments based on aggressive drug enforcement policies. The departments love to brag about all those vehicles that they seize and then put to use as department vehicles, that's as good as money. How many officers are employed for no other reason than to have enough people on duty to handle real crime AND the drug stuff. Huge government agencies exist for no other reason than to wage the War on Drugs. To say that Law enforcement doesn't have a reason to encourage the continuation of our current drug laws would be far from the truth.
Dropseys---You're correct. Police get alot worse thrown at them than they ever throw back. On one hand we have to demand law enforcement to do their jobs correctly, but a couple of ride-alongs will quickly show you why alot of them develope bad attitudes and habits. Personally, I'm tired of seeing police officers gunned down over a program that has given us absolutely no returns on our investment. Luckily, some officers have also adopted that view and some anti-drug war groups, such as LEAP, headed up by law enforcement officers are now emerging.
While there are tons of diversion programs that seized money gets split into, saying that the Police don't benefit is stretching it. Your department gets kickbacks from the state and federal governments based on aggressive drug enforcement policies. The departments love to brag about all those vehicles that they seize and then put to use as department vehicles, that's as good as money. How many officers are employed for no other reason than to have enough people on duty to handle real crime AND the drug stuff. Huge government agencies exist for no other reason than to wage the War on Drugs. To say that Law enforcement doesn't have a reason to encourage the continuation of our current drug laws would be far from the truth.
My best friend shot himself the day before thanksgiving 1999. His family locked him inside their house so he couldn't get more Xanax etc that he was so strung out on he couldn't function; they never thought to take the guns out of the house because no one realized how bad he'd gotten. All the guys I hung around with smoked pot (after 5 years of listening to them tel me how great it was, I tried it once, never liked it, and never did it again), and then 3/4 of them started in on meth, crank, prescription stuff, acid. If anyone on here tells me pot smoking doesn't lead to harder drugs I'll send you a picture of Joyner's tombstone, or my friend Craig's car which is still parked at his parents house because he stayed too high to pass his classes, and then lost several jobs for flunking drug tests. He's 30 and lives with his parents; is currently under house arrest for meth possesion. Gore from one town over got arrested for weed, flunked out of school, and drives a tractor on his neighbors farm now. These guys were the top of their class in high school, going to college to be a pharmacist, a computer engineer and an accountant. This innocent little plant you guys are all praising led, whether directly or indirectly, to where most of my old friends are now. Alchohol can do the same thing (I am a drinker). It all comes down to some folks can handle it and some can't. From what I've seen most folks can't handle the stuff that's illegal and that's why it's illegal. If it were up to me it would all be legal. You OD on heroin, you die in the gutter. You make the choice, you live (or die) with the consequenses. The war on drugs hasn't used nearly as much as we spend taking care of all the crackheads who fry their brains every year. I know you don't OD on weed, but you do on the stuff weed leads to. As far as getting arrested for it. You had it on you, and you got caught. Now you're gonna try some BS way to get out of it on a technicality. If you had any balls you would plead guilty, take what they give you, and learn a lesson from it. Lack of consequences for our actions is what is killing this country.
