Belly Up
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OutOfStep
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I'd really like to have one, but it takes a lot of work to make it fit, you'll need at least (as i've been told) a SYE & CV shaft, motor mount lift, at least a 1" body lift, possible rear adjustable control arms, and possible exhaust adjustment. So for now its on the back burner until I get a bigger lift installed in a couple of years.
Tug-n-pull
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I guess it all comes down to "Do you really need that extra 2.5" of belly clearence?". As for me that never seems to be a real problem. Clearence of the axels are all ever need to worry about but there are folks that do far different off roading than I. No Rock Crawling here just good ol off road trail runing. Nothing I can not slide over. Tug
Bounty__Hunter
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These flat skids raise the transfer case, so you should use a motor mount lift to keep the driveline relatively level. www.goferitoffroad.com has some good inexpensive motor mount lifts. They've also got a flat TJ skid for $210.
joejeepny
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Well found out some info. On an old wrangler if you have a standard you need a 2" body lift or you have to drop the skid an inch. I am deffinitly going to need to do an SYE and new shaft since I already have a 2.5 lift. I figured that. I will have to do motor mounts also. Rock krawler makes them and a company called 33-engineering makes them besides Teraflex and a few others. Damn its always so difficult to choose. Any suggestions on wich companys might fit with less use of the heavy HAMMER. Well I guess The first thing to do is get the SYE done.
The rubicon's install seems to be alot easier. No SYE. Need a new shaft but I will need one after a lift any way. 1 inch body lift (ordered it!) 1" Motor mounts(ordered them!) Still alot of work for 1.5-2" clearence but in the rocks that makes a big difference. Now I have to figure out wihich one works with which oil pan skid plate. Oh and I might have to get adjustable parts for the rear suspension. Whew.
This sh*t makes you crazy!!
The rubicon's install seems to be alot easier. No SYE. Need a new shaft but I will need one after a lift any way. 1 inch body lift (ordered it!) 1" Motor mounts(ordered them!) Still alot of work for 1.5-2" clearence but in the rocks that makes a big difference. Now I have to figure out wihich one works with which oil pan skid plate. Oh and I might have to get adjustable parts for the rear suspension. Whew.
This sh*t makes you crazy!!
Just a word of advice... if you do the SYE/CV install and then plan to raise the t-case with this belly-up skid plate, you will have problems. I know it sucks, but you really need to install the skid plate and get your t-case to the height that you want it. Then you need to measure for the proper length of the CV driveshaft.
If you get the SYE/CV first, then plan on keeping the new skid plate at the same level as the current setup.
C
If you get the SYE/CV first, then plan on keeping the new skid plate at the same level as the current setup.
C
redrooster
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I tried to talk one of my fabrication buddies into putting lagged conveyor rollers on his competition buggies skidpan. They are 12 or 14" wide 1.5" diameter conveyor rollers with thick rubber lagging on them. We both thought it was a good idea but couldn't come up with any before he finished it. I still want to try it one day.
brian4.2
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joe jeep. I am doing this mode as we speak over the holidays. I have basically a rubicon setup in my 99 TJ.I have a 4" lift. I would be happy to share my recent experience.
bandrscen@aol.com
I have installed the 241OR rubicon 4 to 1 transfer case. I have a D 44 rear axle. The skid I chose was an Nth degree 1.25 Tummy Tucker.
http://www.nthdegreemobility.com/tt.htm
#1)Raise the body 1", dont bother with the tcase linkage as you will be moving it again for the belly up.
#2) install the tcase( you dont need to)
#3) install the belly up skid, I gained 4" clearance
#4) install adjustable upper controll arms so you can point the axle pinion
#5) I had to notch the back of my spring perches to allow the shock rods to clear as rotating the axle creates a problem, there are product to move these as well.
#6)measure for the double cardin driveshaft, make sure they know about the rubicon yokes. I changed mine to u-bolt style both ends
My ujoint centers measured 17 1/8"
I did not do the motor mount lifts as my driveline angles are 19 1/2 deg
which is acceptable, the 1" mm lift would give me back another 1.5 deg
bandrscen@aol.com
I have installed the 241OR rubicon 4 to 1 transfer case. I have a D 44 rear axle. The skid I chose was an Nth degree 1.25 Tummy Tucker.
http://www.nthdegreemobility.com/tt.htm
#1)Raise the body 1", dont bother with the tcase linkage as you will be moving it again for the belly up.
#2) install the tcase( you dont need to)
#3) install the belly up skid, I gained 4" clearance
#4) install adjustable upper controll arms so you can point the axle pinion
#5) I had to notch the back of my spring perches to allow the shock rods to clear as rotating the axle creates a problem, there are product to move these as well.
#6)measure for the double cardin driveshaft, make sure they know about the rubicon yokes. I changed mine to u-bolt style both ends
My ujoint centers measured 17 1/8"
I did not do the motor mount lifts as my driveline angles are 19 1/2 deg
which is acceptable, the 1" mm lift would give me back another 1.5 deg
joejeepny
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66 cj5 4 sale wa stata
Untill I can do the SYE on the 1993 wrangler I stumbled upon a idea and I was wondering if anyone knows if it will work. I have a re2.5hd lift and a 1" body lift. I have my transfer case dropped one inch. I was wondering if a put in 1" taller motor mounts would it tilt the engine enough to angle the drive shaft so I can take out the 1" transfer case drop. I am hoping I can get the transfer case back to stock position without an SYE and shaft. What do you think.
Untill I can do the SYE on the 1993 wrangler I stumbled upon a idea and I was wondering if anyone knows if it will work. I have a re2.5hd lift and a 1" body lift. I have my transfer case dropped one inch. I was wondering if a put in 1" taller motor mounts would it tilt the engine enough to angle the drive shaft so I can take out the 1" transfer case drop. I am hoping I can get the transfer case back to stock position without an SYE and shaft. What do you think.
Bounty__Hunter
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You shouldn't need any TC drop with only a 2.5" lift. Why'd you install it? Vibes?
If you had some slight vibes, a MM lift in place of the TC drop should work just fine.
If you had some slight vibes, a MM lift in place of the TC drop should work just fine.
joejeepny
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The rear has shims and the transfer case drops a little and walla no drive shaft vibes. So i figure lift the front of the motor and put the skid back in the stock place. Should work the same except the drive shaft will extend a little. Iam gonna try it and see what happens. As for the belly up I am starting to think I should just spring over since I am going to have to due the SYE any way.
Bounty__Hunter
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I had my heart set on doing a SOA for years, and just recently ordered my 3.5" springs after deciding against the SOA. I don't need the 5.5"+ of lift the SOA gives, I can still run my 34" tires with the SUA 3.5", 1" BL, and TJ flares. Gotta keep that center of gravity low, and who needs flex when you're locked on both ends.
