veteran protects american flag


I've never seen another flag flown above ours before, but I have seen flags displayed incorrectly and if there is anyone around I usually make it a point to correct them.

I probably would've had a similar reaction to that instance though. I see nothing wrong in what he did other then the way he rough handled our flag in the process, but I'll forgive him since he was obviously upset.
 
Yeah I didn't know it was illegal to fly another flag above the american flag. Makes sense though. I don't blame him either. It would make me mad to see the mexican flag flown above ours and I haven't risked my life for this country like he has.
 
Nice find red93,
I totally agree with the Vet. They have no right to fly a Mexican flag above an American flag. If they choose to do that then they should not be suprised when people get upset and take action. IT IS STILL AMERICA!!! Perhaps they should have stayed in Mexico?

I plan on sending the video to everyone I know. I'm sure it will not be shown on the national news. :roll: At least in a good light.
 

I think it a shame that trespassing charges are pending against him and nothing is in the works for what is obviously a federal violation.
 
I heard a commentator say that the US Flag code is not a law:(

The whole section of flag code is just a "suggestion" or guideline.

I had always thought it was law, but evidently it isn't a crime to fly another countries flag above the American flag.

I have always been a stickler about flag ethics and I'm quick to point out problems so they they are corrected.

I would like to think I would have the courage to do what this vet did, he is a good American who has had his fill of these culture rapist who insist on forcing their countries ideas and values onto America instead of coming here and assimilating into our value system.
 
I vaguely remember a regulation that stated the main flag pole on post has to be higher then the building it flies in front of. And no other flag poles can be taller then the American flag when displayed as a group. When the flag is flown at half staff it must be raised completely and then lowered. When it is brought down in the evening it must be raised from half and then lowered.

The flag should not be displayed with any other printing or designs on it (i.e. American flags with P.O.W. symbols as part of the flag). If it is flown at night it should be illuminated. Incidentally, there are only two places where the flag is "officially authorized" to be flown 24/7.....White House and the moon.

I've been to a lot of Soldier/NCO of the quarter boards and flag ettiquette is always a topic. It's been a few years since I've studied the regs so my facts may be off, but that's the best I can remember right now.
 
They charged him with trespassing? It's a public sidewalk. I would think if anything they would have charged him with theft of personal property since he took the guy's flag with him.
I like that the guy took a stand, but I think he overreacted. Did you see the look on the store owner's face? He was shocked. He probably could have asked the guy nicely first and had the American flag flown on top of the Mexican flag. If the Mexican refused, then I could see him taking action the way he did.
For the record, I am not one of those illegal alien sympathizers.
 

Thats just a short clip though. The vet could of walked by that store every day for a week and noticed it. Im sure that wasnt the 1st time he walked by and acted upon it.:?|
 
laxpug19 said:
Thats just a short clip though. The vet could of walked by that store every day for a week and noticed it. Im sure that wasnt the 1st time he walked by and acted upon it.:?|
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But at least he DID act upon it. I don't think he was looking for his "15 minutes of fame" he was pi$$ed off.
 
redrooster said:
They charged him with trespassing? It's a public sidewalk. I would think if anything they would have charged him with theft of personal property since he took the guy's flag with him.
I like that the guy took a stand, but I think he overreacted. Did you see the look on the store owner's face? He was shocked. He probably could have asked the guy nicely first and had the American flag flown on top of the Mexican flag. If the Mexican refused, then I could see him taking action the way he did.
For the record, I am not one of those illegal alien sympathizers.
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Asked the guy nicely? "No habla English"! What the store owner did was disrespectful, illegal and should be punished. As I have said before, if you want to fly a Mexican flag above a US flag go back to Mexico!
And for the record, I am not anti-Mexican just anti- illegal Mexican.
 
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There are really two issues here: (1) was the flag being flown incorrectly, and (2) was the vet entitled to take the action he did to rectify the wrong. Yes, the flag was being flown incorrectly. Typically, however, the law does not give private citizens the right to interfere with the personal safety or property rights of another to correct a wrong that does not put anyone in immediate danger. That is, I can shoot someone who presents a direct physical threat to myself or a third party, and I can break a car window to rescue a baby left inside, but we cannot trespass on another property to "rescue" the flag, no matter how impassioned we may be.
 
Red Neckerson said:
What the store owner did was disrespectful, illegal and should be punished.
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Disrespectful-yes, illegal-I doubt it, punishable-how, deportation? I'll buy that, hardly worth the civic burden to throw the guy in jail though. I'm not siding with the Mexican at all, but it seems to me that he was trying to show devotion to the US and Mexico by flying both flags. I highly doubt there was any malice intended, merely unaware of proper flag etiquette. Honestly, I didn't know most of the proper etiquette stated previously in this thread.
 
David said:
There are really two issues here: (1) was the flag being flown incorrectly, and (2) was the vet entitled to take the action he did to rectify the wrong. Yes, the flag was being flown incorrectly. Typically, however, the law does not give private citizens the right to interfere with the personal safety or property rights of another to correct a wrong that does not put anyone in immediate danger. That is, I can shoot someone who presents a direct physical threat to myself or a third party, and I can break a car window to rescue a baby left inside, but we cannot trespass on another property to "rescue" the flag, no matter how impassioned we may be.
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The colonist were not allowed to defy the king of England either, but I'm glad they did. They were all considered lawbreakers.
 
redrooster said:
Disrespectful-yes, illegal-I doubt it,

redrooster, right you are, my apologies.

Looks to me, according to dandoc's link it is not illegal. But none the less it still P**ses me off. Perhaps you are right on him not knowing that it is improper, (like I thought it was illegal) maybe he and I both should have looked before we leaped.

But I'm still on the side of the Vet.
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