hey gun nuts

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mingez said:
Here we go again :lol: And this isn't meant to sway anyone, I just thought this was intersting. And as TC said, Stats are like a holes, everybody has one, and everyone can find a stat to back up their agenda.

But, everybody talks about how crime rates are going down in the US and going up everywhere else. Let's shed some prespective on that statement.

Every developed nation has considerably lower numbers of murders than we.
Check this out: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T...=au&id=da&id=fr&id=nl&id=no&id=sp&id=sw&id=sz

That's per capita.
here are the totals:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T...=au&id=da&id=fr&id=nl&id=no&id=sp&id=sw&id=sz

49 murders in Norway?

58 in Denmark?

637 in Japan?

12,658 in the US. Our nearest competitor in this illustrious category was South Korea at 4 times less per capita.

Assaults:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T...=ks&id=nl&id=no&id=sp&id=sw&id=sz&id=uk&id=us

At the numbers we have, there's really nowhere to go but down...

But in overall Crime, all categories considered, we're doing better than many think.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T...=ks&id=nl&id=no&id=sp&id=sw&id=sz&id=uk&id=us

I guess when we yankees commit crimes, we go big.
Denmark, who had the least amount of murders percapita also has the highest over all crime rate.

....interesting. :?

Numbers must consider whether or not the crime gets reported, but developed nations are pretty consistant. Still interesting.


so what this tells me is don't do anything stupid in the USA or you might just get you butt shot off! hehehe Still proud to an American, Christian, hetrosexual, pro gun, southern good ol boy with strong convictions against politicaly correctness, and the goverment intervention on my basic rights afforded me by the brave men and women that have served in our nations defence to keep me free. So thanks for pointing out that we are the kind of folks that need to watch our P's and Q's when out and about cause there are folks that will shoot you.

Remember the best way to fight fire is with fire so if you live in fear that there is a gun out there carry a bigger faster gun and train to use it in a manner that will allow you to kill some silly OSB befor he or she can kill you and or yours! Gun control is as simple as being able to hit what you aim at. tug
 
I have a feeling that your geographic location my play into this. I personally live just outside DC - not much chance of hunting your uber-predators that typically require and assult rifle here.
 
The guns that will be available now are the same guns you could buy a week ago. There will be some cosmetic changes put back on them now. SAME GUNS.

It was a stupid law that accomplished nothing. (this is not an invitiation for more statistics)
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Well Shabizzil my Nizzel what have we here?


CIVIL WAR

"WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE IS FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE.
SOME MEN YOU JUST CAN'T REACH...
SO, YOU GET WHAT WE HAD HERE LAST WEEK,
WHICH IS THE WAY HE WANTS IT!
WELL, HE GETS IT!
N' I DON'T LIKE IT ANY MORE THAN YOU MEN." *
(whistle)

Look at your young men fighting
Look at your women crying
Look at your young men dying
The way they've always done before

Look at the hate we're breeding
Look at the fear we're feeding
Look at the lives we're leading
The way we've always done before

My hands are tied
The billions shift from side to side
And the wars go on with brainwashed pride
For the love of God and our human rights
And all these things are swept aside
By bloody hands time can't deny
And are washed away by your genocide
And history hides the lies of our civil wars

D'you wear a black armband
When they shot the man
Who said "Peace could last forever"
And in my first memories
They shot Kennedy
I went numb when I learned to see
So I never fell for Vietnam
We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all
That you can't trust freedom
When it's not in your hands
When everybody's fightin'
For their promised land
And

I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war
Ow, oh no, no, no, no, no

Look at the shoes you're filling
Look at the blood we're spilling
Look at the world we're killing
The way we've always done before
Look in the doubt we've wallowed
Look at the leaders we've followed
Look at the lies we've swallowed
And I don't want to hear no more

My hands are tied
For all I've seen has changed my mind
But still the wars go on as the years go by
With no love of God or human rights
'Cause all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

"WE PRACTICE SELECTIVE ANNIHILATION OF MAYORS AND
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS FOR EXAMPLE TO CREATE A VACUUM
THEN WE FILL THAT VACUUM AS POPULAR WAR ADVANTAGE
PEACE IS CLOSER" **

I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
And I don't need your civil war
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
I don't need your civil war
I don't need your civil war
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no uh-oh-uh, no uh-oh, uh no
I don't need one more war

I don't need one more war
No, no, no, no uh-oh-uh, no uh-oh, uh no
WHAZ SO CIVIL 'BOUT WAR ANYWAY?
(whistle)
DS
 
Tug-n-pull said:
mingez said:
Here we go again :lol: And this isn't meant to sway anyone, I just thought this was intersting. And as TC said, Stats are like a holes, everybody has one, and everyone can find a stat to back up their agenda.

But, everybody talks about how crime rates are going down in the US and going up everywhere else. Let's shed some prespective on that statement.

Every developed nation has considerably lower numbers of murders than we.
Check this out: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T...=au&id=da&id=fr&id=nl&id=no&id=sp&id=sw&id=sz

That's per capita.
here are the totals:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T...=au&id=da&id=fr&id=nl&id=no&id=sp&id=sw&id=sz

49 murders in Norway?

58 in Denmark?

637 in Japan?

12,658 in the US. Our nearest competitor in this illustrious category was South Korea at 4 times less per capita.

Assaults:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T...=ks&id=nl&id=no&id=sp&id=sw&id=sz&id=uk&id=us

At the numbers we have, there's really nowhere to go but down...

But in overall Crime, all categories considered, we're doing better than many think.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T...=ks&id=nl&id=no&id=sp&id=sw&id=sz&id=uk&id=us

I guess when we yankees commit crimes, we go big.
Denmark, who had the least amount of murders percapita also has the highest over all crime rate.

....interesting. :?

Numbers must consider whether or not the crime gets reported, but developed nations are pretty consistant. Still interesting.


so what this tells me is don't do anything stupid in the USA or you might just get you butt shot off! hehehe Still proud to an American, Christian, hetrosexual, pro gun, southern good ol boy with strong convictions against politicaly correctness, and the goverment intervention on my basic rights afforded me by the brave men and women that have served in our nations defence to keep me free. So thanks for pointing out that we are the kind of folks that need to watch our P's and Q's when out and about cause there are folks that will shoot you.

You're welcome Tug. Anytime. That's why I posted it..because it was interesting. Hence, why I said so. Forgive me if I misread the tone of your post, but it seems as if you are trying to call me out on my previous post. I don't know why, I agree with you.

mingez said:
Let me preface this by saying: I own a gun, and like guns. I don't want to ban guns, and see no reason for it. And lastly, I agree with most of what has been said for and against on this thread

And for the 10th time everyone, I'm AGAINST gun control. Some of you are inferring that I am pro gun control because of the types of stats that I posted. READ THE PREFACE. I was just playing devil's advocate. :twisted: :roll:
 
LOL You all are too funny. I copied and pasted it from a lyrics site although I could have typed it myself.

I read over some of your posts and that song came out loud and clear in my memory so I shared it.....(What we've got here is failure to communicate and what's so civil about war anyway)

Lady
 
Axel Rose said:
You can't trust freedom when it's not in your hands...

'Cause they took your guns and you have no recourse!!! :lol:

Tug-n-pull said:
Still proud to an American, Christian, hetrosexual, pro gun, southern good ol boy with strong convictions against politicaly correctness, and the goverment intervention on my basic rights afforded me by the brave men and women that have served in our nations defence to keep me free.

Well all that applies to me, but I'm originally a New Englander.

You are a self proclaimed proud democrat, while I am, well... not.

Not trying to get into a political debate and not attacking your party or beliefs ('cause mine are damn similar), but I thought that was strange and it reinforces my thoughts that we really need a new political party in this country.
 
One o them big ole Jeepz shindigs!

Jeepster05 said:
just wait till deer hunters hear about this. I can see it now, a guy in a camo with an M60 goin to town on a 8 pointer!!!! Git-R-done

Git-R-Done... thats right...
 

Mingez You did mis read my post I am and was not calling you out! Just was a great post you had and I felt informed by it! Your are welcome what I was saying was gald to be in America with all the guns and all the killing and all the political problems and all the other crap that we are so well known for! Golly Ned I would not even give up Road Island for Norway or any of the rest of the countrys stated where they dont seem to want to kill each other! RI refference was a size thing only I have no problems with the little state so I dont get blasted by some one from there! Far as the new political party deal goes heck fire boys and girls just think of a name for the party and I am sure we could find some one here at jeepz strange enough to run on the ticket! tug
 
Tug-n-pull said:
Mingez You did mis read my post I am and was not calling you out! Just was a great post you had and I felt informed by it! Your are welcome what I was saying was gald to be in America with all the guns and all the killing and all the political problems and all the other crap that we are so well known for! Golly Ned I would not even give up Road Island for Norway or any of the rest of the countrys stated where they dont seem to want to kill each other! RI refference was a size thing only I have no problems with the little state so I dont get blasted by some one from there! Far as the new political party deal goes heck fire boys and girls just think of a name for the party and I am sure we could find some one here at jeepz strange enough to run on the ticket! tug

Hahahaha! I figured as much. America's the best, truer words have not been said.

Now, I'd be willing to give up El Paso, and Cowboy Stadium for all of Norway, but I'd like to keep the rest. :wink:
 

Some pretty Important American Leaders who knew their stuff said:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 
RE: What

I'm with Tug on this one.

I also support all that stuff about the right to bare arms. In fact, everyone should own at least two.

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(Photo from the Springfield Armary archive)

Regards,

Gadget :mrgreen:
 
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