Bounty__Hunter
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Anybody else subscribe to a similar philosophy on the 2nd amendment as the Nuge?
http://www.youtube.com/v/T_QjEL0uUgo
http://www.youtube.com/v/T_QjEL0uUgo
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Utah_jeepster
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Most people are scared of this man, because he speaks the truth.
redrooster
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I can tell you this, the day they outlaw guns is the day I become a criminal.
dandoc
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You, me, TC, and a slew of others on this board and across this country :agree:
KrazyJeeper
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CAn't open the link, but if its coming from Ted, I probably concur.
currupt4130
VT Hokie
I'm right there with you.
Red Neckerson
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Classic Ted!! :shades:
redrooster
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He's entertaining to listen to, whether you like him or not. He starts to sound like a whack job though when he goes on about blood brother this and kindred spirit that.
redrooster
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Mingez,
Glad to have you back.
I'm interested in what part you didn't agree with...the right to bear arms or one of the examples he used like the right to shoot someone that is molesting your child?
At times I think he is a good spokesman, but then he goes all nutty on ya.
My opinion is that people who blame guns for murder are idiots. A gun is just a tool. Should you blame your hammer when you smash your thumb? Heck no.
People were killing people long before guns were invented.
Glad to have you back.
I'm interested in what part you didn't agree with...the right to bear arms or one of the examples he used like the right to shoot someone that is molesting your child?
At times I think he is a good spokesman, but then he goes all nutty on ya.
My opinion is that people who blame guns for murder are idiots. A gun is just a tool. Should you blame your hammer when you smash your thumb? Heck no.
People were killing people long before guns were invented.
90Xjay
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I may have mentioned that Ted used to come to my town alot, one of his best hunting friends and show promoter's lives here. I got to go to a BBQ joint and have a private lunch with him and about 15 people after he got back from a wild boar hunt in the Matthews Ranch and even though he was exhausted, he is still a high energy guy. When he is on a rant, its not an act for him, thats just how he lives.
Bounty__Hunter
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Was it Ted that said "Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O'Donnel fat"?
jfrabat
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Not being a US Citizen, I have a slightly different perspective than most americans, but none the less, I'd like to share my views on this subject...
I agree that people SHOULD have the right to bear arms. But I think the way it is done here is much too liberal. In many other countries, to get a permit to allow you to BUY a gun, you have to do a psychological evaluation to determine that you are FIT to carry such a weapon. Also, I think the KIND of weapon should be limited... Hunting guns, handguns and such, yeah, I see no problems.
But I went to a SMALL gun show about 2 months back, and I could not believe that I could buy a .50 caliber weapon by just showing my driver's license. I asked the guy what was the purpose of owning such a gun, and he said "sport shooting". My question is, exactly what KIND of sport requires a .50 caliber? Is the sport called "Stop the armored limo" or "bring down the helicopter"??? Last time I checked, no-one was doing any Elephant hunting in the US... And the dinasours are all gone, so I see no need for a private citizen to have such a huge weapon.
You could also buy a complete M16 rifle complete with all tactical attachments (OK, I know, it's "semi" automatic, not "fully" automatic, but anyone with some basic gun knowledge some commonly available tools can change that). I mean, I say a clip for an AK47 that held almost 100 bullets!!! What do you need so many bullets for?
I mean, think about it... The guy from VA Tech legally bought his guns. I do agree that I prefer to see the bad guys die rather than the victims, but that is not the only side of the equation.
So in summary, I do believe in the right to bear arms. But just like you have to get a license to drive, you need to prove that you are capable of doing so in a way that will not inflict upon the rights of others, like the right to live.
Felipe
I agree that people SHOULD have the right to bear arms. But I think the way it is done here is much too liberal. In many other countries, to get a permit to allow you to BUY a gun, you have to do a psychological evaluation to determine that you are FIT to carry such a weapon. Also, I think the KIND of weapon should be limited... Hunting guns, handguns and such, yeah, I see no problems.
But I went to a SMALL gun show about 2 months back, and I could not believe that I could buy a .50 caliber weapon by just showing my driver's license. I asked the guy what was the purpose of owning such a gun, and he said "sport shooting". My question is, exactly what KIND of sport requires a .50 caliber? Is the sport called "Stop the armored limo" or "bring down the helicopter"??? Last time I checked, no-one was doing any Elephant hunting in the US... And the dinasours are all gone, so I see no need for a private citizen to have such a huge weapon.
You could also buy a complete M16 rifle complete with all tactical attachments (OK, I know, it's "semi" automatic, not "fully" automatic, but anyone with some basic gun knowledge some commonly available tools can change that). I mean, I say a clip for an AK47 that held almost 100 bullets!!! What do you need so many bullets for?
I mean, think about it... The guy from VA Tech legally bought his guns. I do agree that I prefer to see the bad guys die rather than the victims, but that is not the only side of the equation.
So in summary, I do believe in the right to bear arms. But just like you have to get a license to drive, you need to prove that you are capable of doing so in a way that will not inflict upon the rights of others, like the right to live.
Felipe
Bounty__Hunter
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Well put, and your views are appreciated, especially since not being a citizen of the US gives a small view of 'outside looking in'.
Sport shooting doesn't necessarily mean 'hunting', target shooting is a lot of fun. Precision shooting, all the way up to a 50cal, is challenging and a sport in itself.
Sport shooting doesn't necessarily mean 'hunting', target shooting is a lot of fun. Precision shooting, all the way up to a 50cal, is challenging and a sport in itself.
jfrabat
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Oh, dont get me wrong... I used to practice sport shooting. I dont know exaclty what you call it in English, but I used to do "Tiro Practico" which is the "scenario shooting" type of sport shooting (you know, the one you shoot at targets while going through doors, and following a certain route inside the shooting range), and I also used to shoot hunting guns (30-30, .223, .22LR, etc) are the range.
And I agree; sport shooting, if done in a responsible way, can be A LOT of fun.
But I just do not see any justiication to own an assault riffle or a heavy caliber weapon (and while some hunting guns are also heavy caliber, they do not have large clips like these assault rifles). Anyway, that's just my personal opinion, and I respect that others will feel differently.
But cases like the VA Tech incident just gets you thinking if they should not be a little more strick with the "right bear arms".
Bounty, if I remember correctly, you are a law enforcement officer; I would be interested to know your opinion on the subject that any citizen can buy an assault rifle or heavy caliber weapon without too much regulation (and to me, no violent criminal record, and a valid drivers license does not count as anywhere near strict).
Felipe
And I agree; sport shooting, if done in a responsible way, can be A LOT of fun.
But I just do not see any justiication to own an assault riffle or a heavy caliber weapon (and while some hunting guns are also heavy caliber, they do not have large clips like these assault rifles). Anyway, that's just my personal opinion, and I respect that others will feel differently.
But cases like the VA Tech incident just gets you thinking if they should not be a little more strick with the "right bear arms".
Bounty, if I remember correctly, you are a law enforcement officer; I would be interested to know your opinion on the subject that any citizen can buy an assault rifle or heavy caliber weapon without too much regulation (and to me, no violent criminal record, and a valid drivers license does not count as anywhere near strict).
Felipe
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currupt4130
VT Hokie
Felipe here's my take on it. I understand your point about limiting the types of arms that civilians are allowed to own and operate, but, here's my point on exotic (AK's, .50cals,etc...) guns. The constitution grants all law abiding U.S. citizens the right to bear arms (there are age limits of course). That means that we're allowed to have whatever firearm we choose. By trying to limit what firearms we can have goes directly against the constitution. Now we could always amend the constitution to exclude exotic arms and other heavy weaponry, but then another problem arises. Once someone finds a way to limit what guns we can and cannot own, they can slowly work their way down to allowing us to not own any guns at all.
It's like taking a 2x4 and continuously cutting it in half until you're only left with sawdust. The sawdust used to be the 2x4 the same way amendments to the constitution would be what used to be our right to bear arms.
Most gun owners in the U.S. are very passionate about their rights to bear arms, some exercise the right in more ways than one (ie owning exotic arms), but even for those of us who don't own these sorts of weapons, the majority of us tend to support those that do because once their right to own those weapons is gone, then we'd be next in line to lose our rights to the wack jobs. It's one of those, you stand for someone else so they stand for you, and in that way we all stand.
I can damn sure tell you that if someone broke into my house or threatened my family or well being, the first thing I'd do would be to load my gun. The next thing I'd do would be call the police. I'd much rather be at the trigger end of my gun than holding the phone hoping the police got to my house before something bad happened.
But that's just my two cents and where we live, everyone is entitled to that, just like everyone is entitled to a firearm.
It's like taking a 2x4 and continuously cutting it in half until you're only left with sawdust. The sawdust used to be the 2x4 the same way amendments to the constitution would be what used to be our right to bear arms.
Most gun owners in the U.S. are very passionate about their rights to bear arms, some exercise the right in more ways than one (ie owning exotic arms), but even for those of us who don't own these sorts of weapons, the majority of us tend to support those that do because once their right to own those weapons is gone, then we'd be next in line to lose our rights to the wack jobs. It's one of those, you stand for someone else so they stand for you, and in that way we all stand.
I can damn sure tell you that if someone broke into my house or threatened my family or well being, the first thing I'd do would be to load my gun. The next thing I'd do would be call the police. I'd much rather be at the trigger end of my gun than holding the phone hoping the police got to my house before something bad happened.
But that's just my two cents and where we live, everyone is entitled to that, just like everyone is entitled to a firearm.
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