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Just really finding any time at all for the new Jeep. As far as the running of the Tugly CJ it is impressive to say the least for me being use to the 2.5L 4 banger. This ol tub will get up and move. Tonight was the first time on the hwy and it will get up and go I was running at 65 mph where I was topped out in Jeezabell and pressed a little harder and was running near 80 in no time. Still had running room left inthe ol gal.

The Carb on this jeep is a Holley and looks to be a replacement in very recent days clean as a whistle. Still have not removed anything under the hood to look around and see just what Holley it is. Does anyone have any feed back as to what carb was stock and what holleys are a match for this engin? Is there any feed back as to good bad or indefferent in reguards to a Holley on the I6.

My exaust looks really good new pipe and muffler front to rear. A little to quiet for me but that will change in time. There seems to be no real wet spots as in oil leaks or anything on the block. Bought new fan belts today and will be putting them on asap. Hoeses are next to be replaced under there.

I have figured out I have the T18 transmission so what transfrcase am I running? if it is and I think it is stock? DAna 30 up front and AMC 20 in the rear. Today I found a Dana 44 for the rear when I change the springs out for a lift which will be soon. Going to call them in the moring to get a price quote. Think I will go Rough Country again.

I will get all the running and suspenion done up and then start with the cosmedics and confort stuff like new tug bumpers and such hehehehe! Oh yea I could not stand it had to try out the winch and it does what is suppost to. That will be a nice item in the future.

This whole CJ thing is so new to me. Just the fire wall is like barren and empty compared to my ol YJ. Everything is different I feel kinda lost. Slowly it will get clearer with help form you folks. Thanks for listen just needed to vent and seek wisdom. later Tug
 

the tcase is a dana 20.... low gear is 2.02:1 you can take the gears from a dana18 tcase and lower low gear to 2.34:1 or but a terra kit that can get it down to 3.5:1.... ooh and tug...time for another CJ sight.... www.cjoffroad.com.... all CJ guys... none of those panisy YJ guys..... haha.... i know im in trouble now...
 
ooh... and if you can hit 80mph i will just about promise you you have 2.73 gears in your axles.... do you know if the two piece axles have been replaced w/ 1 piece axles yet?
 
I would go with a one piece axle in the rear it will make it alot better ....Tug is it a 2 bar. or a 4 bar. carb????
YJ WHAT FAR_RIGHT???? Hehehehehe :D
 

Hello again, Tug,

Congratulations on the CJ adoption. I have not signed in often during the past several days, so I just looked at your "...I give you Tugly" post in General Chat.

Tugly is a beauty as far as I am concerned, but I admittedly favor the CJ series. From the looks of the engine compartment, Tugly came from a good home -- very clean and complete.

I tried to ID Tugly's carb by magnifying the engine pics offline, but I was unsuccessful. As regards your original carburetor question, I believe that a 79, I-6 would have emerged from Toledo equipped with a Carter BBD, two-barrel carb. This would be the fixed jet(s) version of the Carter BBD, not the succeeding computer controlled, stepper motor variable jetted BBD carb. I believe the stepper motor jetted BBDs became the standard I-6 issue in 82 or 83.

In any case, I am sure you will in time transform your CJ into a truly capable off-road machine.

I hesitate to offer my help, given the incredible depth of CJ expertise available for the asking on this website, but I will enjoy reading and looking at your future posts and pictures. Should you post a question that is within my range of expertise, I will gladly offer my two-bits.

Best of luck on your new excellent adventure,

Inspector-G
 
RE 4.5 more like 7.5

Tug, If it is a 4 barr. carb, is it a factory manifold with an addapter plate, or is it a manifold designed for a four barrel (JC Whitney has sold these for years)?
 
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I personally am glad to see you expanding your horizens to the CJ side of things. They are a lot different. You will be able to offer a lot of info to us, and vice-versa when you get going. Can't wait to see the results. Good luck Tug!
 
My uncle had a Holly 2 bar. 350 on his 82 CJ and loved it. He has been trying to talk me into buying one ever since I bought my Jeep. He said they work good on the inclines and are easy to work on and adjsut.
 

False hope here the carb turns out to be a very clean most likely professionaly rebuilt and cleaned POS Carter 2 bl. Oh well it does run good so go with it right.

wsgoodspeed I am in Johnson City area come on up and lets go play in the trails and mudd.

jps4jeeps thanks for the web site that is my top only i have it in the cj7 mode.

Lady Gator thanks for the words. I to am glad to be checking out the CJ side. Need to see how tghe other 3rd live. hehehehe

Far right no idea what kind of axel work has been done to it. All I know is I hope it stays together for a while. hehe Thanks for the case info. So I think I have this now I should have a 4.0 with a T18 4 speed with a Dana 20 case and a Dana30 up front and an AMC 20 in the rear. Let me know if I am missing some thing here.

This is were Jeepz comes into play. Anyone new to the site pay close attention. I have to many post from just plain running my mouth here ok. Now who do you see seeking the simplest knowledge. Me I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer by any means around here.

However I have some friends of mine that can with their heads put togather come up with all the right answers. Thanks everyone for all your help. Humbly Tug
 
Tug - the carter is not the end of the world. I had all the common problems with the carter on my cj. Somewhere, either on this forum, or elsewhere on the net, I found a link to a repair for the bad-idling carter carb. The fix is simple. Take the choke plate and linkage off the top of the carb, then remove the venturi cluster, down in the carb. You should only need a small flat screwdriver, a larger flat screwdriver, a pair of needle-nose pliers, and a 3/16" nutdriver. When you get the cluster out, there will be 2 small brass tubes at the bottom. Drill the tapered ends of the tubes to a larger size. I used the smallest drill in a "number drill" index. This took care of all my idle problems. Driving up my steep driveway, I can pull the engine down to 400-500 rpm without stalling.
 
Tug,

I had guessed above that Tugly would have been originally equipped with the fixed-jet version of the Carter BBD.

The famous "Nutter Bypass" CJ BBD carb mod is not applicable to your carb. (You will learn about things like the Nutter Bypass and HEI ignition now the you have crossed over into the dark side of Jeepdom.)

You mentioned above that the carb appears to have been professionally rebuilt and at the moment is working fine...so why tinker with it? Good idea!

But, if in the future you look at your carb and say "I'm going in, Jim," the web article that olyeller mentioned will be valuable and is likely the article found here:

http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/carter.html

That article is well written and worth reading by anyone contemplating a venturiotomy on a Carter BBD. One complaint with the article, however: the author neglected to mention the show-stopper complication that exists if the subject Jeep has power brakes.

If the CJ has power brakes, and Tugly does, you will not be able to complete the procedure as written.

Following the procedures as laid out in the article, after removal of several small parts, the choke plate mounting rod must be slid toward the driver's side fender and removed. The power brake booster-master cylinder assembly, however, is too close to the carb to allow that rod to be removed. If you cannot extract that rod, you will not be able to extract the venturi cluster and continue with the procedures.

All is not lost, however. One can merely remove the carb from the engine, then continue on at the bench with the procedures as given in the article.

For my money though, a wannabe carb surgeon would be better advised to remove the carb from the engine to perform this delicate surgery. This procedure involves the removal of several tiny parts, all of which wait patiently for their big chance to sproing away, go over the wall and never again be seen.

Don't ask how I know about the escape dreams of those little parts. I don't want to talk about that.

Regards,

Inspector-G
 
Inspector-G is correct about the master cylinder being in the way and preventing the choke rod from being removed. I found that by sliding it out as far as it would go I could get the venuri out without removing the carb. I did this fix at least once a week when I first bought my Jeep. After doing this about four times I rebuilt the carb and found that the bowl was FULL of trash. But like others have said.....if it's not broke, don't fix it!
 

deerhunter - your situation sounds familiar. i did exactly the same thing. got the venturi cluster disassembly/reassembly down to an art before drilling out the tubes. i could take the cluster out, clean the tubes with a torch tip cleaner and reassemble in less than 20 minutes.

btw - no power brakes on olyeller
 
Deerhunter,

I wish you were around when I was going through the throes of agony with my EEC-controlled BBD. I could not get the venturi cluster out to save my butt while the carb was on the engine.

After fooling around with that BBD, both on and off the engine, for way too long, I officially declared it "unfixable."

I purchased a used, pre-EEC version of the Carter BBD (like the one Tug has) from a salvage yard for the outrageous price of $6.00. I bought that carb with the intention to use it only temporarily. On the way home from the salvage yard, I picked up a rebuild kit at a NAPA. (Same kit as the EEC-controlled version of the BBD.)

Once home, I looked over the carb and although filthy outside, it was immaculate inside, so...I said, "What the heck? Give it a shot."

I slapped the carb into the Jeep without bothering with the rebuild. A few minutes of vacuum gauge work later, the engine was running like the proverbial Swiss watch.

I have not had to even look at the carb since that installation.

The moral of the story? Sometimes, you get lucky.

Inspector-G
 
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