with what mingez said... i'm sure many many many of those 4000 are inactive members.... you can obviously see that in the board participation... some people would join to ask one question, get the answer, then leave... some could have joined and then suddenly wanted to change their name, so some could be the same person as different names... i'm sure there are not 4000 active members... sure would be nice, but i do give my appreciation, welcome, and also my hand to the active members that we do have