Flip Kits.....??SOA
- Thread starter LadyGator
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1076655
That is exactly what I am talking about. People in Florida call them a flip kit. I am looking into lift for my Jeep. I really need the engine up and out of the water. I really won't need specialized suspension for rocks and things like that. I want to protect the engine somewhat, by getting it up and out of the water. What do you think under my circumstances?[addsig]
That is exactly what I am talking about. People in Florida call them a flip kit. I am looking into lift for my Jeep. I really need the engine up and out of the water. I really won't need specialized suspension for rocks and things like that. I want to protect the engine somewhat, by getting it up and out of the water. What do you think under my circumstances?[addsig]
Bounty__Hunter
Super Moderator
1076660
Great choice for a CJ. You'll need longer brake lines, some steering correction, and possibly longer driveshafts. The lift amount is equal to the thickness of the axletube and height of the spring perch.[addsig]
Great choice for a CJ. You'll need longer brake lines, some steering correction, and possibly longer driveshafts. The lift amount is equal to the thickness of the axletube and height of the spring perch.[addsig]
Joopin
Super Moderator
1076664
SOA info
That site should help you with most of your questions, it is written up for a YJ but it should help. After lifting your jeep this much you will get some side effects like: bump steer, and spring wrap (so I've read). The Jeep will be drivable but I guess these can get annoying. You can remedy these problems after you do the lift by building a traction bar etc. etc... The site above explains all this.
One thing it doesn't explain is the shock mount option. After much research on this conversion, I have read of people cutting off the shock mounts and remounting/mounting new ones PERPENDICULAR to the ground... the mounts are attached to the axle at a slant for some reason causing less clearance. If you put the mounts on perpendicular then you will gain clearance and you won't have to buy new longer shocks, the stock length will work fine. I have also read that this way will articulate much better when compared to the longer shocks. Actually here is another site that explains the shock thing. People do SOAs differently by skipping a step, adding something of their own, just find your nitch. Good luck.[addsig]
SOA info
That site should help you with most of your questions, it is written up for a YJ but it should help. After lifting your jeep this much you will get some side effects like: bump steer, and spring wrap (so I've read). The Jeep will be drivable but I guess these can get annoying. You can remedy these problems after you do the lift by building a traction bar etc. etc... The site above explains all this.
One thing it doesn't explain is the shock mount option. After much research on this conversion, I have read of people cutting off the shock mounts and remounting/mounting new ones PERPENDICULAR to the ground... the mounts are attached to the axle at a slant for some reason causing less clearance. If you put the mounts on perpendicular then you will gain clearance and you won't have to buy new longer shocks, the stock length will work fine. I have also read that this way will articulate much better when compared to the longer shocks. Actually here is another site that explains the shock thing. People do SOAs differently by skipping a step, adding something of their own, just find your nitch. Good luck.[addsig]
1076672
SOA Kit
This will get the metal that you need to do the SOA. You will need shocks, pitman arm, possible loner driveshaft in addition, but this kit gives you the basic stuff and includes the shock brackets. We have a few YJ's and CJ's that run out of here that we have done this with and they love it. Good luck
Hope this helps
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SOA Kit
This will get the metal that you need to do the SOA. You will need shocks, pitman arm, possible loner driveshaft in addition, but this kit gives you the basic stuff and includes the shock brackets. We have a few YJ's and CJ's that run out of here that we have done this with and they love it. Good luck
Hope this helps
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Bounty__Hunter
Super Moderator
1076684
SUA will generally give more stability than SOA, but there are a lot of other factors. I'd recommend a 4" SUA kit, it will get you out of the water, and be more stable on the road and flat-towing.[addsig]
SUA will generally give more stability than SOA, but there are a lot of other factors. I'd recommend a 4" SUA kit, it will get you out of the water, and be more stable on the road and flat-towing.[addsig]
Joopin
Super Moderator
1076690
But, an SOA is the way to go if you don't want to spend tons of money... I priced my SOA project out to be 1800 bucks total, that includes a slip yoke eliminator, cv double cardan driveshaft, all the hardware, brake lines, perches, etc.. AND five 35s mounted, balanced with a set of new wheels... so a big chunk of that is for the wheels and tires alone!
I have heard of people not using an sye, even the stock driveshaft to save on cash, but if you want to do it the right way... its worth the extra 500 bucks.
SUA lifts tend to be pricy cause you are buying all the stuff mentioned above, PLUS whatever the kit costs... (A 6" RockReady Spring under lift for a YJ costs around $1200)... I have also heard that you generally keep the stock ride because you are useing the stock springs. Anything else will stiffen up the suspension, but this is based on what I read since I havn't done mine yet.
edited by: Joopin\', Jul 17, 2003 - 12:14 PM[addsig]
But, an SOA is the way to go if you don't want to spend tons of money... I priced my SOA project out to be 1800 bucks total, that includes a slip yoke eliminator, cv double cardan driveshaft, all the hardware, brake lines, perches, etc.. AND five 35s mounted, balanced with a set of new wheels... so a big chunk of that is for the wheels and tires alone!
I have heard of people not using an sye, even the stock driveshaft to save on cash, but if you want to do it the right way... its worth the extra 500 bucks.
SUA lifts tend to be pricy cause you are buying all the stuff mentioned above, PLUS whatever the kit costs... (A 6" RockReady Spring under lift for a YJ costs around $1200)... I have also heard that you generally keep the stock ride because you are useing the stock springs. Anything else will stiffen up the suspension, but this is based on what I read since I havn't done mine yet.
edited by: Joopin\', Jul 17, 2003 - 12:14 PM[addsig]
1076694
For stability go with a 4" lift kit and be done with it. You can run 33's, gain some clearance and still be able to flat tow your rig. Yes an SOA will get you 5 to 5-1/2" of lift, on a CJ it still is not quite enough for a 35 unless you want to trim your fenders. It is also very hard to find a garage that will do the SOA kit for you. Most 4x shops will not do them either. We are rare in the NE in that we will do it. A lift kit is much easier to get put on. Factor this into your decision. Most people that have an SOA have done it themselves.[addsig]
For stability go with a 4" lift kit and be done with it. You can run 33's, gain some clearance and still be able to flat tow your rig. Yes an SOA will get you 5 to 5-1/2" of lift, on a CJ it still is not quite enough for a 35 unless you want to trim your fenders. It is also very hard to find a garage that will do the SOA kit for you. Most 4x shops will not do them either. We are rare in the NE in that we will do it. A lift kit is much easier to get put on. Factor this into your decision. Most people that have an SOA have done it themselves.[addsig]
meangreenyj
New member
1076785
man, i did my entire soa for less than $500, all you need are spring perches, new shocks, a pitman arm, and someone who can weld.. you can use the stock spring plates, u bolts, shock mounts, and you can run it without longer driveshafts. just angle the rear pinion up a little. pull the track bars off, weld it up, and drive it out of the shop.... we did mine in like, 5 hours, you will need to lower your skidplate about an inch, but just get some pieced of tube cut to that length and some longer bolts and there you go...plus, and soa rig will outflex sua anyday.. for a look at mine go to www.cardomain.com/id.meangreenyj[addsig]
man, i did my entire soa for less than $500, all you need are spring perches, new shocks, a pitman arm, and someone who can weld.. you can use the stock spring plates, u bolts, shock mounts, and you can run it without longer driveshafts. just angle the rear pinion up a little. pull the track bars off, weld it up, and drive it out of the shop.... we did mine in like, 5 hours, you will need to lower your skidplate about an inch, but just get some pieced of tube cut to that length and some longer bolts and there you go...plus, and soa rig will outflex sua anyday.. for a look at mine go to www.cardomain.com/id.meangreenyj[addsig]
Bounty__Hunter
Super Moderator
1076804
Yes, a SOA will outflex and generally outperform a SUA offroad, but that's not what was asked and not what appears to be important to this Jeeper. Everybody uses theirs differently.[addsig]
Yes, a SOA will outflex and generally outperform a SUA offroad, but that's not what was asked and not what appears to be important to this Jeeper. Everybody uses theirs differently.[addsig]
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