28 mpg hyway in a CJ&?!?!?!?!

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Look at the EPA rating on that thing. 28 mpg hywy... Unbelieveable. The new TJ's get at best 21 hywy, and that's with a 4 banger 6 speed.

by the way, is anyone else sick of the gas prices going up every Friday night and back down Monday morning? How about the nice hike for independance day?
 
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Tell me about it. Had to traveled down to Florida that weekend in an 8.1 L Suburban, lucky if we got over 10 mpg. For a while i thought that we were hauling gas from station to station b/c we stopped so much. At least in a jeep you don't have to worry about filling up every other day. I can stretch it out to almost 2 weeks.
 
2 weeks?!? man i can make it a week if i'm careful and catch rides with my friends to work a day or two. 5 days is about my average for filling up when i drive everywhere on my own. Gas on my way home was $2.73. But on the weekends it will hit in the 80's. How bad is it for ya'll?
 
My Jeep averages better than that, if you factor in the trailer rides to the trail.
I don't know about the whole Suburban thing. I had the 5.7 with a 42 gallon tank and could go from B'ham, Al to the beach and back on the same tank. Ya'll must have been loaded down with junk.
 

Haha, I had a 1986 Renegade new in 1986, it never got close to that! Maybe they meant KPG... :purple:
 
TwistedCopper said:
by the way, is anyone else sick of the gas prices going up every Friday night and back down Monday morning? How about the nice hike for independance day?
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I can tell you that marketers get the rack prices around 5 pm each day that goes into effect at midnight that night and are good for 24 hours. When I get my wholesale prices for Friday at 5 pm I don't get another set of prices until Monday at 5 pm. So the price that goes into effect at Friday at midnight RARELY changes until midnight on the following Monday. So I would say that the local stations are screwing around there.

As far as the price in general.. what is so screwed up is that crude, which is directly linked to the price of gas and diesel is traded in the futures market(thanks President Carter and the Energy Dept) and anytime some jackarse in Iran or Korea sneezes the speculators that set the prices start running it up and the guys betting on the come are buying contracts for what they think crude will be 90 days from now. I think someone should do an indepth report on how all of that works and expose it on national TV for the public to see and maybe some people would quit scratching off their lotto tickets long enough to learn something...;)
 
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90Xjay said:
I think someone should do an indepth report on how all of that works and expose it on national TV for the public to see and maybe some people would quit scratching off their lotto tickets long enough to learn something...;)
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Yeah, right. Never happen as long as we got a president that's up to his epaulettes in oil money.:roll:
 
I'll never happen as long as people are closed mined enough to accept the excuses they are told about where their "money" is going.
 
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Yeah, right. Never happen as long as we got a president that's up to his epaulettes in oil money.:roll:
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Yeah, that's the problem. It's all Bush's fault.

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I love when people blame Bush. He has nothing to do with the price of oil. You have the internet at your finger tips , might want to look around abit and see why the price of oil goes up.
 

The funny thing is i have seen something about this on some news station. Talking about the buying in the future thing. Maybe it's because i'm 17 and don't know anything but i think i see a resemblance in that and buying stock on speculation that led to the great depression in the 30's? Not saying it's gonna put us in a depression but from history class i learned that wasn't a very good idea at that time and doesn't seem like it would be now.
 
Gas in Seattle (where I live) has been holding at around $3.15 for a while. I am really looking into a diesel swap to get better mileage and start brewing biodiesel. As a country, we need to really look at making our cars run on something else. It's all supply and demand, if we can't live without gas, they can charge whatever they want.
 
Well that and look at how oil companys are making an increasing recording breaking profit. If we are in sucha crisis how are they making money? By jacking us at the pumps of course. yeah its a business and thats what they do, but they are screwing the country and there needs to be aaction from the govt to prevent gouging. They found gouging in Maryland, but stated that it did not violate any laws on the books. So why even look into gouging if no one can do anything. As for blaming this oil thing I saw a thing on TV where they are refining oil saturated sand up in canada and are concerting to pure oil thats even better quality than what we get from the middle east. They said we have it in the U.S. as well, but none of the oil companys want to invest in the processing. Well Canadian oil companys are making a ton of money and they are counting on us to have to come to them for supplies in the future. I guess when you make record profits why spend money on something that would help out the customers?
 

They're obviously refining the oil sand because of the strong sand people lobby and the money from big sand :lol:

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They said we have it in the U.S. as well, but none of the oil companys want to invest in the processing.
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Why come up with a better way when you are making a ton of money with a monopoly? Until consumers get fed up enough to start demanding (financially, ie, won't buy gas anymore) alternatives, the price will just keep going up and the company will continue to not look for alternatives.
 
Y'all need to read a little about Brazil......a very good example to follow ('though I know we wont). They are now or will soon be energy independent (as far as cars go). They make alcohol out of sugar cane, have some native oil, and have cars that'll run on pure alcohol, a mix, or gasoline (made by.....SURPRISE!!!!!!!......GM and Ford). We're a bunch of saps.
 

Brazil is a great example, the only problem with alcohol is that it won't vaporize or burn when the temprature gets close to or below freezing and that it takes more energy to make ethanol that you can get from burning it. My dad is an engineer at Ford (and I own two Jeeps!) and we have had many discussions about alternative fuels. He spends a lot of time in Brazil for work and has been involved in their transition to ethanol.Another problem is that current U.S. regulations on the books, brought to you by the oil lobby, makes mass-producing alternatively fueled vehicles here unfeasible. I personally think that biodiesel is the best alternative. It is inexpensive to make, requires no modifications to an existing diesel engine, and is from a renewable source, and it dosn't pollute. I am trying to find a way of blending biodiesel with ethanol to mke a good alternative for gas, but I am no chemist and may just end up blowing myself up, but at least I am having fun!
 
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