2 questions

[Operation 4x4]

1. I'm looking for a suspension lift kit, though im pretty much a nub when it comes to lifts. I was looking at a Rough Country 4'' lift and liked the price, but i really dont know what you are supposed to do when you install lifts (as in modifications to transfer box and things of that nature) and what is really supposed to come with a complete suspension lift. Any help would be appreciated.

*Edit* Is this a good lift?

2. I was also looking at getting a snorkel for my jeep. Any suggestions? I really never found a purpose for them, but i wouldnt mind getting one.

Thanks in advanced for the help.

 

[jps4jeep]

I would avoid snorkles. They choke the air to the motor when offroad. Plus if you are in water deep enough to need a snorkle, you have other problems.

as for the lift, you get what you pay for! Something that is an inexpensive lift kit will not be as nearly complete as a full suspention system. That kit might look attractive because of the price point, but you need to really look at it.

I do not see any provisions for upper control arms, it is still a short arm lift, and 4" is pretty much the max for that conrtol arm's usable length.

I see Poly bushings on both ends of a fixed LCA. I would prefer one end to be a poly bushing and the other to be sometype of rebuildable joint (johnny joint, heim etc..) also I would rather see adjustable control arms.

That kit has a T-case drop, it is marginally effective to correct the driveline angles for 4" lift, I would prefer to see a SYE instead. it is truely the way to do it.

I don't like how that kit uses the stock track bars.. they probably want you to re-drill the front and what appears to be a flimsey bracket for the rear, that kit will probably have some bad bump steer. I would prefer to see a kit come with, at minimal, an adjustble front track bar. the relocation bracket is OK for the rear.

Fixed sway bar links are OK, Disconnects are what I would like to see at a minimum, ideally I prefer some type of Anti-rock type/style sway bar.


SO the long and short of it. If you are not planning to drive off road, and put minimal milage on your jeep, you don't mind a quirky suspension kit (bump steer, those poly bushings on the axle end will wear quickly) then buy if not. Save your money and buy something far more comprehensive.

also don't buy a lift kit from Quadratec or 4wd hardware, their mark up is insulting. find a local vendor, support local business and get it cheaper.

 

[Operation 4x4]

I do intend to use off road, just got into an accident today. Some douche (excuse my language) hit me from behind and took off, luckily some random lady pulled the license plates of the car. Insurance money = lift kit and tires. bwhahaahah

 

[jfrabat]

I would avoid snorkles. They choke the air to the motor when offroad. Plus if you are in water deep enough to need a snorkle, you have other problems.

Here I disagree; I think a snorkel will depend mostly on where you wheel. If you are in a swampy area or do many river crossings, I would advise you get a snorkel.

While a snorkel will not turn the Jeep into a submarine (you still have to worry about the ignition getting wet, or any sensor, or even the ECU, all of which can fail as a result of water getting into them), it CAN save you from hydrolocking the engine. So even if you do get in over your head, and the engine dies, you will be able to save it down the road by changing a sensor, a distributor or an ECU, all of which are a cheaper alternative to a new engine.

Also in extremely dusty trails, a snorkel can be helpful, as you are now taking air from higher up (read: less dust), although not as much as in the cases mentioned above.

Personally, I run an ARB, and I am happy with it (no restriction in my case, bt then again, I have a 2.5L engine).

Felipe

 

[jps4jeep]

maybe at sea level where the oxygen is a little denser, but not at any elevation, if you need a burst of throttle, the motor chokes down, the ECM will read a rich mixture and lean out the motor to the point where in extremely high elevations it actually shuts down the motor.

 

[Operation 4x4]

maybe at sea level where the oxygen is a little denser, but not at any elevation, if you need a burst of throttle, the motor chokes down, the ECM will read a rich mixture and lean out the motor to the point where in extremely high elevations it actually shuts down the motor.

Haha, the town I live in is at sea level, if not below. We are about 15 - 30 minutes from South Padre Island (the beach for you simpletons).

 

[Bounty__Hunter]

I just installed the Rough Country kit on a TJ yesterday and was impressed by the quality and the completeness of the kit. I've seen them work offroad and they do pretty well for the money. I will address some slight issues with the kit where you can decide to upgrade if you like.

The kit recommends redrilling the axle end of the front track bar mount. This is a safe and correct method of locating the axle, and will prevent bumpsteer if done properly. I opted to install Rough Country's adjustable front track bar for an additional $99.

The front swaybar links are non-disconnects, fine for onroad but you may want to upgrade to disconnects if you plan to wheel the jeep.

I didn't have any issues with the fixed lower arms or the fact you retain the stock upper arms. The kit is designed for proper caster with the fixed lower arms and 4" springs so no adjustable arms are needed at this height.

The rear driver's spring is a heavier rate than the passenger, so Rough Country has done their homework and done their best to prevent premature sag of the driver's side spring.

The included transfer case drop is all that's needed to correct the driveline angles, and it will work fine until you decide to use a SYE and CV driveshaft. You gain about 6-7" under the belly after the lift and taller tires are installed, so giving up 1" isn't a bad compromise.

Overall I think it's a great bang for the buck, especially considering how expensive all the other kits are on the market.

 

[Operation 4x4]

You think you can get me a link or something bounty? For the kit

 

[jfrabat]

maybe at sea level where the oxygen is a little denser, but not at any elevation, if you need a burst of throttle, the motor chokes down, the ECM will read a rich mixture and lean out the motor to the point where in extremely high elevations it actually shuts down the motor.

Well, there I cannot argue; the highest I have taken the Jeep is about 1,000m elevation (around 3,000 feet). Both Panama City and Miami (where the Jeep has been) are at sea level, and the mountains in Panama and Costa Rica are not that high (the highest peaks are under 2,000m, or less than 6,000 feet).

 

[Bounty__Hunter]

Jeep TJ Suspension Lift

It's on sale right now for $499.

Here is the adj front trackbar for $99: Jeep Accessories - Adjustable Trac Bar

 

[bobcat481]

I'm running the Rough Country on a YJ. For the price, I was very happy. The kit was very complete, except for the quick disconnects I got up front (extra). I DID have an issue with the front spring sagging with-in a day or two(down to 3 1/4"). I know they had to "settle in" but, the were sagging in UNDER the 4" I paid for. I called and a new set was on my door-step in 2 or 3 days. Put them on, again, same problem. Called Rough Country again, and ***** a little a he sold me a nice set of bommerang shackle for cost to make even with me. I'm up where I should be now(even with the castor shims). BTW, I think the reason they settled in under 4" was because of the massive tube bumper, plating, and winch, and such. All in all I would buy it again in a heart beat. It preforms great off-road, and road-ride is fair considering the springs are arched not flat.

 

[mudvain]

since a TJ was my last Jeep i'll leave a little input. i scored a 2" BDS lift, added a JKS 1.25" body lift (urethane body pucks were nice in this kit, makes a difference) and didn't need to mess with a transfer case drop or SYE. this combo cleared 33's easy and the BDS lift rides really plush. I have Rough Country's "new" springs on my YJ and their customer service (Ryan) is second to none. research it. doing homework planning out a lift kit will save a big headache later